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Great game breaking unit(ubber unit)
Powerfull, yet not invincible
Not game breaking at all
I've seen worse
Well I've been hearing cries of cheese everytime I field a tzeench DP. Ohh that inv save is too much, I cant kill it in close combat, its a game making unit, the price should be higher, etc... So what I want to know is, is this true or not, I personaly dont think so since for a 160+ mini, wings and doombolt. It really doesnt kill all that much, ohh and even had complaints about this from SMurfs and Imp Guard
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Pffttt... Tzeentch has got nothing...
A Slaanesh Lash Prince is where all the complaints are at.
I dont find princes that hard, I mean T5or6 isnt hard to beat with any army.
The trick is to see them like say a squad of raptors, less wounds more power weapon attacks, shoot it down before it gets to close.
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I think, as all the voting is showing thus far, that the DP is a really great HQ model, but it doesn't make or break your army. People who can't deal with it need to step it up. At 5 toughness it's really not all that hard to get rid off. It might take some concentrated fire to take it down, but it's worth it. I still lose games even with a Lash-Prince.
Now they can turn games in your favor say if you DS them in with their wings, but not game breaking.
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I think Tzeentch Princes are one of the better choices in DPs. The Invlunerable Save boost is nice, but the real power, I believe, comes from the ability to pair Warptime with a second shooting psychic power. They are rather expensive (at least, by the new codex standards) which balances them out.
Overall, I think it's pretty hard to make a bad daemon prince. They are solid HQs no matter how you put them together (although every DP should have wings).
They can help you win, but they're not so powerful that they're mandatory in any Chaos Marine army. I think that's perfect and how all units in every army should be.
If I ever faced an opponent who complained about the prince being too strong, I would probably just laugh, tbh. With str 6, 7, 8 etc abundant in most armies, it's laughably easy to kill any individual unit if you try hard enough to do so skillfully.
I don't find it game breaking at all, its reasonably easy to shoot down and is not that good in CC, its cheap though and as previously suggested a lash deamon prince is pretty cheesy, 2 IMO is oing to far. Normal deamon princes are fine though and are a well balanced, cheap but destructive unit,
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I have a nurgle army and I need a new HQ for it, how are nurgle dps?
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My Chaos Codex is in the trunk, but I think it says that Daemon Princes are immune to Instant Death (I could be mistaken). If that's the case, that +1 Toughness isn't as helpful as it normally would be. I'm not saying it isn't helpful, it is, just not AS helpful or useful as it normally would be.
I'm using a Tzeentch Daemon Prince (Tzeentch because of fluff- a Tzeentch army), but I'd say that Tzeentch (because of the additional invuln save) and Slaanesh (the lash) are the best.
But as grimmtu said;
Doesn't instant death special rule go by unmodified toughness? Thats how I have always played it.
In response to the question you were answering, I yusually use a Nurgle Marked Daemon Prince, and find he often makes his points back in killing, not only that but he is a big fire magnet that refuses to go down, which means your opponent has to spend alot of his resources shooting at the DP, whilst the rest of your army decimates them.
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