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These are the configerations i would use:
CSMx10, fist champ, chaos glory, melta's x2 = 220pts
Plague marines x7, meltagun x2, fist champ, personal icon = 226pts
I know there is a thread about most cost effective troops choice but i wanted something more specific. I can't decide on which to take, i like numbers but i also like never dieing
Both squads would have a rhino, and my tactic was to rush forward and summon some lesser demons/greater demons/termies into objectives etc...
They are for my 2000 points list, i was thinking maybe 3 squads of each but i am unsure.
What is your opinion?
Anything from a list of pro's and con's - general roles they perform well at would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Well firstly, I personally wouldn't take three of the same type of squad, even in an assault based army as your other thread seems to indicate you like.
Of course, if you want it assault heavy, then take twin meltas in 2 squads, and twin plasmas in the other.
Plasma is a wonderful weapon typing and always useful to have around. Plus, it gels nicely with the Plague Marines' FNP nicely.
It's hard but... as a rule of thumb: even numbers are always preferable for squads. So, in your case, I'd be considering the regular CSM heavily. Extra survivability is great. But 2 extra bolters and 4/6 extra attacks in CC is also great.
Swings and round abouts I guess. Can you not take like 2 x CSM and 1 X plague marines?
That way, if there IS an objective which needs holding, you can get the plague marines there, and get dug in tight.
A bit of variation can go a long way.
I run all PMs myself (Death Guard), but for what you're looking for, I'd agree with Karmoon. Especially if you are going to bring in a Greater Daemon off these units, it'd be better not to pop an expensive PM champ with a PF.
On that note, if you are using a Greater Daemon as a key part of your list, you may also want to consider ditching the PFs on the melta squads, and giving them Power Weapons instead. I know it'd be losing a bit off what you want to be assaulty units, but I just hate to see so many points explode ... even if it is for chaosy goodness.
And your third unit can still be PMs with plasmas and a PF. They'll be great at hunkering down near an objective, or on table quarters shooting at whatever is in range, and living through just about anything.
Good post Barbarian.
Also, how full is your fast attack?
You mentioned it in the other thread (I think), but if there's ever a place for naked aspiring champions - it's in raptors.
Atm i'm only writing up a list nd so far i have:
csmx10 /w rhino (2 of these squads)
PMs in rhino
lesser demonx10 (2 of these)