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So tell me, if you will... I was just reading through the Codex and read the part about Word Bearers being the only CSMs to still have chaplains. I'd read this in a much earlier codex when originally deciding which CSMs I wanted to focus on, but hadn't noticed it in the current one so thought it was no longer the case (until now).
Basically my question is... does this affect gameplay in any way (completely new to 40k basically, and don't know what chaplains do for ordinary SMs, and whether or not this means we can use them in the same capacity - or if they're just for looks and fluff).
And also, even if they hold no specific gameplay advantage (or allowed to be used at all as what they are), I can still grab one from a SM army, make him all chaos-like, and equip him as a normal CSM to be used as a normal CSM, right?
Yes, I realise I'm probably greatly confused. That's what you fine people are for.
WB have Chaplains known as Dark Apostles. Like regular Chaplains but dedicated to the Chaotic pantheon. They don't have any specific rules, but you can represent them easily with any of the Chaos Space Marine HQ choices. But you couldn't use a Space Marine Chaplain of any sort's rules in a regular game; you'd have to get your opponent's permission, run a few house rules, or play Apocalypse. And yeah, you could definitely use a Chaplain's model. I've seen some brilliant Apostles made like that.
Yeah had a feeling that was the case, since they're mentioned nowhere else in the Codex... I might be able to get my friend to allow it though, since he'll be my main opponent anyway.
So another question... since I don't have a SM codex handy (obviously) what exactly does a Chaplain do? I know quoting directly from copyrighted materials isn't allowed so I'm not asking for a stat description or anything, just a brief overview of exactly what their purpose is on the battlefield.
(I like the idea for fluff purposes of convering a Dark Apostle, but if he's never going to serve any purpose whatsoever on the battlefield I'm not sure I'll bother any time soon...)
Wait, I'm just getting a flashback from the days long, long past of my brief 40k playing experience...
... are chaplains actually the HQ units of Space Marines?! So I'm guessing even if I were to use it, I'd have to swap out the termie lord...
Correct, they are one of the space marine HQ choices.
In short, a Chaplain (Or alteast last codex) empowered the squad with him, allowing them to reroll failed to wound rolls (I believe). He also had a Rosarius and a Crozium (Or something like that), counting as a 4+ invunerable save and power weapon, respectively.
The closest you could come would probably be a lord, with a daemon weapon to represent the accursed crozium. If you give him MoT, that would sort the invunerable save.
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Yes in the older chaos codex your dark apostle was a Chaos Lord that had the ability to make units he joined fearless (or was it units within 6" like a dirge caster?). Also he could take a crosius that was a power weapon which gave you a 4+ invulnerable save.
You never got the equivalent of litanies of hate, enabling your unit to re-roll failed hits on a charge.
So taking MoT and a power weapon get you as close as you can to the old rules. However in the old codex all wordbearers could only take MoCU - the equivalent of IoCG I suppose so no god specific marks or icons. But in the new codex all those restrictions evapourate.
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A great idea i heard a while back is calling your aspiring champions: "Aspiring Chaplains"
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The Chaos lord is a good basis to make your Dark apostle, you could also go with a sorcerer too, using MOT and any spell of your choosing, the force weapon represnts the power of the cursed crosius and the spell being the direct intervention the gods have on realitiy.
Thanks for your help again guys.
Oh, but unrelated question while I have this thread open quickly... the standard bearer in squads... obviously he doesn't get a bolter because he's holding the standard... but is he still treated like a regular marine regardless of this, or is he stuck defending himself with a pistol?
You can use a bolter without penalty and enter combat with BP & CCW as the standard doesn't actually class as a 1 handed weapon or anything. You can even do these things while operating a bike!
Some people model icons as back banners coming out of backpacks to better represent this.
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