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Hi i am new to chaos and my friends have been telling me the wrong stuff ... can you guys just answer if these are good setups or not..
1) 8 khorn berzerkers/skull champ w/power fist or sword whats better?
2) 5 havoks w/3 reaper auto cannons and 1 heavy bolter?
3)10 csm w/ MoN or MoK whats better?. 2 flamers and AC w/ power sword?
4) possest csm are they worth it or not ?
5) oblis or terminators?
6) whats the best symbol?
7) can you mix icons in your army? and mix troops? like death guard bezerkers and 1k sons in the same army?
Thank you very much if you can answer these for me.
Last edited by BMC Havok; October 5th, 2008 at 21:38. Reason: :)
I'll lend what I can, being pretty newbish myself...
1) I love the zerks, and thats the exact set up I ran them at myself. They're great!
2) not really sure, but it seems like quite a bit.
3) well, depends on the main set up, but maybe go wtih Tzeentch or Nurgle? Assuming its not a CC unit.
4) I really enjoy Possessed en masse, pretty random, but also alot of fun. Play them for fun, you might be surprised like I was.
5)Terms for me.
6) Khorne or Nurgle. Khorne gives you more attacks, killing before they can hit you back, Nurgle lets you take hits but stick around longer.
Hope I helped at least a little bit.
Dekkah 'ead Stompah's Rood Boyz
W/L/D- 2008 7-4-0
thx i need all the help i can get lol ive still got the loyalist spacemarines stuck in my head ...... now i need 2 get that out and chaos in
2) The rule of thumb for havocs is to have one normal CSM for every one carrying a heavy weapon. So if you are going to have a squad with four heavy weapons, size it up to eight marines. Another good rule is to either take all of the same weapon or else in pairs. In your case I believe it would be better to take two autocannons and two heavy bolters. This is to give the squad more reliable performance.
3) This is really a tactical question that must be addressed along with how/what you expect the squad to perform its function in your army. MoN is better for holding an objective, MoK is better at making the bad people go away.
4) I believe the general consensus about Possessed is that you can just pay four more points and get yourself a Terminator.
+4pts = 2+ armor sv, power weapon, ranged weapon (possessed only have CC), stable weapons platform, deepstrike, and very powerful upgrade options. This is a ridiculous upgrade once you think about it for a moment.
5) This option is personal preference and really depends upon the makeup of your army. If you need elite harassment, then nothing much beats out the termis. If you need superior shooting power, nothing much on foot is going to beat out the power and versatility of the obliterators. In the new edition oblits also get plasma cannons! To reiterate, I don't think these two should be in the same decision for your army. Either you are going to need more fire power or you are going to need the Swiss army, in-your-face attitude that termis bring to the table. For example, the argument should be Termis vs. Chosen or Oblits vs. Havocs.
6) Again, it really depends on what role you expect a unit to be playing in your army build. Nurgle seems to be the seasoned player's choice. Khorn is very popular amongst newer players. Tzeentch certainly fills a niche, but I would suggest you become better accustomed to CSM before you attempt to use the change god. same goes for Slaanesh, but not so much as the init upgrade is fairly cheap and is a distinct advantage in CC. Me? I prefer good ol' fashioned Chaos Undivided for the cheapest icons and the most unshakable troops in the game. I do partake in the occasional Slaaneshi squad now and again, however.
7) The Gods of Chaos would strike you down where you stood if you attempted such a thing. Choose your path and dare not to fraternize with those who have chosen another lest you find no protection from your once-favored Lord, and only the naked animosity towards your soul and lust for your blood by all those who favored the Gods wisely.
To answer your question: You can have different squads, but each must be either wholly undivided or favored by a single god. If you are worried about fluff, it is not too uncommon for followers of different factions to fight in the same army, especially with the onset of the Black Legion which champions the very ability to do as such.
Last edited by TreeSapX; October 6th, 2008 at 01:27.
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