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Librarium-Online abounds with useful tactica so I was wondering if there were any greater daemons out there who could assist me. I am primarily a loyalist of the Imperial Guard (and I intend to remain one ) but I am here asking advice on behalf of someone else. She is new to Warhammer and interested in trying a very 'smashy' sort of army. Given what she was looking for, the rage-filled, howling hordes of Chaos seemed like a match!
Having little experience with Chaos Daemons though, I humbly turn to you. Starting small at 500 points - with possible advice for exansion? - are there any beginner friendly Daemon armies? The sort of list that's reasonably robust and relatively straight forward to effectively play.
I guess it depends on what sort of army she wants. Khorne is extremely killy, but moves at a normal speed. Nurgle is super tough, but can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Slaanesh is extremely fast, but relies on rending and isn't very tough. Tzeentch is shooty.
A 500 point list I might run would look something like this.
Khorne Herald on chariot
8 Plaguebearers, icon
8 Horrors, bolt of Tzeentch, changeling
You've got a little bit of everything. Plaguebearers are very hard to kill with T5 5++ and FNP, the Khorne Herald is just as good as a Daemon Prince but cheaper, the Fiends are very fast and hit extremely hard, and the Horrors provide some ranged support.
Imperial Guard: 3000 pts
Chaos Daemons: 1000 pts
It wouldn't be all that difficult to convert the Changeling, he's just random bits of stuff glued together
I will agree that a chariot may be tricky for a newbie, but it doesn't have to be that difficult. A Chaos chariot and a Bloodcrusher is all you need. Stick the Jugger where the Horsies are supposed to go and put the Herald in there (or use a converted Bloodletter) and you're all set.
Just stick with Khorne and Nurgle for a beginner. Tzeentch and Slaanesh stuff requires more finesse and isn't straightforward at all. Most Tzeentch units get crushed in close combat and most Slaanesh units require the help of something tougher. For 500 points your best bet would be a Herald of Khorne (no chariot or juggernaut) attached to some Bloodletters and some Plaguebearers to hold an icon. 2 squads of Bloodletters and 1 squad of Plaguebearers should suffice. For the Herald just use the Bloodletter head with the large horns and brass fittings... and maybe paint him a little different so he stands out.
This is a good way to start and get a feel of how much impact a daemon army can make in close combat, which is really their specialty. (Sorry Tzeentch fans, try Fantasy Battle! Tzeentch is better there ) Plus you don't have to break your bank account to go this route. Things like Fiends, Daemon Princes and Horrors are nice but they're expensive. Plaguebearers only come 5 in a box but you don't need many of them at all. Even at 2000 points she could get away with 2 squads of them. Bloodletters are cheap (well, for GW products anyways), extremely effective and they're good in both games! Consider using square bases or getting trays that can use round bases for Fantasy Battle. That's the best part about this army! You can play both games!
All you need is a Plaguebearer Command, 1 box of Plaguebearers and 3 boxes of Bloodletters to start off with. Run 2 10 man squads of Bloodletters with no upgrades and 5 Plaguebearers with an icon. Throw a Herald in with one of the squads of Bloodletters and you're good to go! When she is ready to move up, start grabbing Bloodcrushers and a Herald on a Juggernaut (which is a special order item in the US). From there start adding more Bloodcrushers and go with a Soul Grinder at 1000 and another at 1500. This is one of the most straightforward ways to play daemons and it happens to be one of the more competitave builds for the army. The guy who won 'Ard Boyz ran something very similar to this but instead of Plaguebearers he ran Fateweaver... which is a tough conversion for a beginner. Plus Fateweaver isn't viable at low points.