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So, in the past edition of the Chaos Codex, we were forced to choose either Bolt Pistol and CCW or Bolter, and I modeled my marines as having the Cloe-Combat setup as such. Now, as we get both, I was wondering if you guys thought people were likely to give me trouble over not having a bolter modeled on my CSM were to to fire it.
Looking at hte GW site, they have all their Chaos troops fitted with Bolters, which worries me a bit. I know nice, laid back people won't mind, but I also know the hobby isn't comprised entirely of nice, laid back people
Thanks for your time
CSM automatically come with cc weapon, bolter and bolt pistol (as well as frag and krak grenades). As someone once said on this very forum, you could model them holding mops and they would still get everything. The only time wysiwyg is really important is when you BUY upgrades.
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I agree with john, but with the issue of "non laid-back people" I would advise either putting holsters on the marines (can be anything you want it to be). Short of that you will need to go ack through your bits and model the bolters somewhere.
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worst case you could have them sling the bolter over their shoulders, like a hand bag. I bet the CC stance probably looks pretty cool, and wouldn't bother.
But if you haven't painted them and bolters look cool somewhere then why not =)
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There is no need to model the standard equipment. Upgrades are what the WYSIWIG rule is for.
No, I had the same question and I called the GW help line and they said no since its standard equipment.
Gunney is correct. I sent an E-mail to GW asking your very same question. They said you dont need to model the bolters or CCW on the models. And you can switch between the two set ups at any time, even if you fired your bolters in your turn and got assaulted in the other players turn you can use your CCW to get 2 attacks. If someone gives you a hard time they are most likely a rule nazi or just dont know the rule. If they are a stickler for the rules tell them that what you are doing IS a rule, and if they dont know the rule explain it to them politely. Whatever you do, do not conceed to them and not use both. Hope this helps.
Aaaaah, thanks guys, that's a relief
Glad to hear I don't have to get rid of my shiny chainswords!
Anyone to give you trouble over it, just slap em for me because it would be impossible to find room on every single marine to load up a bolter as well, and on top of that you aren't given enough bolters I bet.
Just mix weaponary within the squad if you're unsure about WYSIWYG, have some boltermarines, some bp/ccw marines and a couple of "true-grit" style marines. Modelling a bp, a ccw, a bolter and two different kinds of grenades on every marine would just look silly.
And as said, the "default" equipment isn't that important when it comes to modelling purposes - just a quick glance in your codex will tell you what equipment your generic CSM has, but upgrades like icons and heavy weapons are things you can't tell which model in the squad it is holding it unless it's modelled...