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Alright, like alot of people i am completely new to warhammer. i have codex and rule book, and have the basis for an army:
20 space marines
8 khorne berzerkers
1 chaos lord
i want to build a large army, and figured this is a good basis and should come in around 1000pts to start. i was thinking about getting a few raptors, havocs, terminators, etc? my biggest problem is figuring out how to break them up and what to give them all?! i want a fairly diverse army. thanks in advance for any help.
Which god do you like the most? That's a good starting point for deciding on what way to take your army..
Be nice to your enemies, it will make them madder!
i like khorne and nurgle, but doesnt everyone...... what would it matter exactly. and for the sake of future help lets say i go khorne.
well I like and play Slaanesh my self but I can see how good Khrone and Nurgle can be.
A lot of people will suggest what is known as the Kamaroon special (sorry if I spelled your name wrong) it's 3 Terminators with Combi Plasma and 1 with Heavy Flamer and Power Fist.
Defiler I like getting rid of the Auto cannon and flamer and just using close combat weapons because if you fire the battle cannon you cant use the other shooting weapons
uh that's all I really know from experience I have not been playing Chaos very long my self
If you do things right people wont be sure if you have done anything at all.
well i have a list very close to yours, it gives you a good number of troops, decent anti-armor and enough armor on the feild to make your foes pick. this does seem like a khorn army but actually i love all the cult troops. And it comes to 997 points will full upgrades. its a good soild list i think, since i cant post each upgraded items points on LO you will have to use your codex to find them. This is the list im use, and the only thing im thinking of changing is droping one lesser daemon and giving my Skull champ a power fist. Im new too but if you need any help id be glad to help out.
HQ: 140 points
-Mark of Khorne
Troops: KB238/CSM255/SLD104/Total 597point
Khorne Berzerkers x8
Chaos Space Marines x10
-Icon of Chaos Glory
Summoned Lesser Daemonsx8
Heavy Support: 260 points
Chaos Predator x2
Grand Total: 997 points
any ideas on what all i should add? my biggest problem is selecting what weapons to give etc.
One of the things I do is make troops with all the weapons. It give versiltility and just because a model has a weapon dosent mean it must take it. Also, take icons of chaos glory it is almost required. As for expanding, get at least one more rhino, they are indespensible. I would go with temies, a Karmoons Special (3 combi-plasmas. powerfist and heavy flamer) its just too versitile. The defiler needs 2 DCCWs. To break them up, 8 zerkers and 2 10 man CSM squads with a rhino works.
Hope it helps and welcome to chaos
Ok boss, ill tell you what id take in terms of troops.
w/ 2 x melta guns, champ w/ power fist and Icon of chaos Glory. rhino.
w/ Plasma gun x2, champ w/ power fist and icon of chaos Glory. rhino.
champ w/ power fist.rhino
this should give you enough versatile troops to wipe out foes and hold objectives.
take out the possessed they are horrible.
now for your heavy support, this is more or less going to be what you like most. But since almost everything i have learned about 40k came from riptor i know that with armor always take two.
The models you have make a good core for a Chaos Army.
The first thing you need to decide now is if you want to go mechanised or if you want to stay on foot. Mobility is a great aspect of the game, some armies are more mobile than others and it gives them a tactical advantage. Usually static armies will be weaker than really mobile armies (Tau and Eldar are among them).
If you want mobility for your troops then you should add 2 rhinos to your list so all your troop squads are embarqued. If you do that then you should gear your 2 CSM squads with 2 meltaguns and a Champion with a Power Fist.
If you want to stay on foot and shoot from afar then you should equip your CSM squads with a Plasma Gun and a Heavy Bolter for more power and more range.
Now 3 squads of troops is regular in 1500 pts games but if you want to play 1750 or 2000 pts games you will need 4 of them. Plague Marines are a great addition to any army. They should also come with a Rhino if you want to make them mobile. If you don't want to be mobile then I would go for a squad of Noise Marines, they have a great array of weaponry that can wreak havoc from a distance.
Next would come another Heavy Support choice. I love my Defilers and I almost always take 2 with me. You could add another one. Then a Predator would be another nice addition. Read the various threads on how to equip it if you're not sure.
Then if you're looking for another unit to add to your growing army you could go with a squad of Raptors. They make a great addition in a mobile list. They can follow your rhinos and support them with a flanking manoeuvre or a deep strike deployment.
Also, think about getting a Daemon Prince with Wings, they are really worth it.
That's it. Hope it helps.
thanks a bunch, i have an idea though. im going to build my CSM with magnents in 3 of them, and put a magnent in each of the special weapons. should give me some versatility, as well as in my defiler. i found some on amazingmagnents.com that would be plenty small enough.