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I am getting back in Warhammer 40k after a couple of years. I used to play Dark Eldar and Deathguard and decided to jump back in with Chaos again. Having found out that were now at 5th edition I got the new rulebook and new Chaos Codex and after a quick read through the Codex I began to get really irritated. What happened to the Great Unclean One? What happened to Plaguebearers? What happened to the seperate "books of chaos" to field a Deathguard, World Eaters, etc. army? I feel like there is no room for originality with the new Chaos Codex. Is there any way that I can still field a legitimate Deathguard army because I am very disapointed with the new Codex.
P.S. I am actually pretty happy with the new 5th Edition rules though.
This is a very common reaction to the new chaos marine codex. Not surprising since it went from a forces and legions of chaos style to a renegade warband style.
Still, there are some things you can do. You have the option of using plaguebearers as the generic lesser daemons and the GUO as the generic Greater Daemon. I know, it just doesn't feel the same. But that's about the only way you're going to get the daemons back in the army short of apoc with a Chaos Daemons army in a 2nd org chart detachment. (But hey, it's a chance to start a second nurgle army!)
I used to use a lot of daemons personally. Since the 'dex came out they've been enjoying the hospitality of the foam on my shelves at home. Probably not what you wanted to hear. However, if you can focus more on the marine side of things with your deathguard, you can still make a very capable army.
The massive page of armory goodies is gone along with some of my old favorites, but what we've got now covers most of the goodies I used to angle for anyway. Not all, but most. And they did add a few new goodies that are quite nice as well (no more possibility to insta-kill or even force-weapon kill a daemon prince).
As deathguard, you'll have a very solid core army. Plague Marines are rock-hard, which is fantastic in 5th edition where they've also got scoring status. And you can now take raptors and give them an icon of nurgle if you want. Model up some plague-winged guys or whatever. Which is good because you can't fill that hole with Possessed anymore because they got gutted into virtual uselessness.
Frankly, the transition can be a bit rough. But the new 'dex can stand on it's own and still provide some nice variety. Just takes some getting used to.
Do you think it would be possible to field a Chaos Marine army with the GUO, Plaguebearers, and Nurglings from the Chaos Daemon Codex or would that be bending the rules a bit too much? To be honest, the GUO and plaguebearers were my main reasons for picking chaos (although I love plague marines too, just not as much). Ah, well. I guess I am hust going to have to get used to the new codex. Thanks for the reply Xardian.
If you liked the daemons more then the marines, why not pick the Chaos Daemons codex and see about building an all-daemon nurgle army?
If you like Daemons more than CSM then the Chaos Daemon Codex is for you. You will find a lot of nasties in it, especially if you're already dedicated to a particular God.
On the other Hand, the new Chaos Codex is a lot more balanced now and you should find a way to make a great Nurgle army. Personnally I had a pure Death Guard army with the 3rd edition, now I just have a lot of Plague Marines with feel no pain and I love it. I still use them in squad of 7 but I also like to field them in squad of 10... having a more flexible list is really nice.
On the other side I am now more inclined to use other type of dedicated troopers and I'm learning to love my Khorne Berserkers and my Thousand Sons more and more every game...
I cried too when I lost my Alpha Legion cultists. But I've learned to work with the new codex. It made my army list alot easier to read, and made it possible to field marines while drunk! So while it took away from ALOT of the fluff (I miss the Dark Chaplains too, repainted all my Word Bearers when we lost them), the new codex still gives you options for very yummy armies!
Yes, I did deep-strike your sister...
Necrons : W-8 D-3 L-7 (Sleeping in their TombFoam, waiting for a new codex)
Chaos Forces (CSM/CD): W-42 D-19 L-28
Apocalypse Games : W-4 D-0 L-1 (4 Titans, Brass Scorp, 3 Baneblades, 2 Bombers, 3 Fighters, and a Partrage in a Pear Tree)