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I play both fantasy and 40k and wish to use daemons in both fantasy and 40k. I'm sure some of you do the same thing. How can you ensure you can use the same models in both 40k and fantasy?
The only option I see is to use square bases for everything, and accept that the rating in tournaments may well go down ...
Or perhaps make some sort of cunning base which fits instead either square or round base ... help me with this struggle, I certainly don't have the money to buy two armies just cos of the base sizes!
I had some thoughts on this.
Some models like spawn, which are on round 40mm bases, can go on 40mm or 50mm square bases. A 40mm round base will fit inside a 50mm square base if a hole is dug into the base, and some filing done. Or, a new base can simply be made which is the same thing - 50mm square, with a hole large enough to fit the 40mm circular base. Not the easiest thing to do, but not the hardest.
Now, for the models which fit in 25mm bases, like bloodletters, plaguebearers, etc, this is a little harder. I see two options.
1) 4 circular 25mm bases placed into a square takes up 50x50mm, so a base can be made up around this. This will allow ranks of models to be built up in the form of squares, eg have 4 models on the 50x50mm base. I hope this is clear ... However, because the circular bases take up the full width, this won't look wonderful ...
2) Something similar can be done, but with a higher 50mmx50mm square base designed to layer the circular 25mm bases. A basic example of this would be to have the first two 25mm circular bases touching diagonally on the 50mmx50mm base. The other two bases would be on the other diagonal, slightly on top of the first two. They would all be angled to allow the models to fit in correctly. Again, I hope you understand what I mean, I haven't seen an example of this layered base conversion to show you, and I am not sure how to draw it
Please comment, provide links to pictures if this sort of thing exists, or some ideas
Last edited by Wuffell; April 29th, 2009 at 11:49.
I've seen some clever application of Magnets, By using rare earth magnets in the base and glueing the mini to a small flat peice of metal you can have the bases simply swap out.
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I'm not a WHFB player.. but does it actually matter if you have incorrect bases? (Gasps of dissapproval comming my way there)
I know it'd look wrong, but I often mix square and round bases for my 40k squads.. usually when the square one designates a special ability, bolt of tzeentch etc..
i.e something that cannot be modelled.
It makes life a lot easier.
You could always be complicated and work out a way to make a detachable rounded edge for the square bases.. or put everything on a terminator round base with a square cut out in the middle..
just some thoughts
Current Army Status - Chaos - 15000 points, Orks (BadMoonz) - 3000 Points - Space Wolves - 4000 Points, Necrons - 2000 Points.
Thanks for the comments so far
Do you have examples of where magnets would help? Perhaps a picture with the circular bases and one with square bases?
It is nice to use the correct sized bases. A lot of people are fine with square bases being used, but many think it is rather amateurish to use all square bases in a game of 40k.
Having all the models on a larger terminator-sized base isnt bad, but for a daemon teleporting army it is likely to get whole squads killed if there is a little more bad luck than normal!
For models on 25mm bases, I use round bases, for ranked units I then use the Gale Force 9 movement trays for the round models (their 5 wide unlike the LoTR ones), and for skirmishers I just blue tack them onto a square base.
For anything on a 40mm base or bigger I would put them on the 40mm base, or for GD's the 50mm bases. the 60mm round bases are too big for fantasy.
Just my experiances so far. Excuse the typing I am on iphone. Long time 40k player that wanted a fun army so picked up daemons. I also played my first game of whfb last night too ( lost buy hey I learned some rules). Most of my army is on square bases and I have had no trouble in any tourneys I have entered. I played at local shops and at 4 gw stores on the east coast (40k tourneys). The one local store that did try to give me trouble about square bases in 40k was thankfully helped by the great red shirts at the gw in washington DC. On pg 8? There is a blerb in the 40k rules that says models that come with multiple bases can be modeled on any base supplied. Only if u use. Onstandard or custom bases u needs opponent concent. For my few round figures what I have do e is get the gw movement trays that u make and magnetic sheeting to just pop in the round base. My guo is on a round and I made a 50?mm square movement tray I put him in for fantasy. Sorry agai. For spelling hope this helps.