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Are they the same thing? I've been promising myself I'd start a WFB army for ages, and was about to start up a VC army until I noticed that it says Skulltaker can be used in both WFB and 40k. Is this the case across the board? Is it possible to put together a list that would be legal and (at least somewhat) effective in both games? The WFB players I know are constantly complaining about DoC being ridiculously beardy, which usually means they're a strong army to field, and I know they're an effective 40K army if you build the list properly and don't fail the roll to decide which half comes in first.
So yeah; can it be done? Is it acceptable etiquette to make a dual-game army using Daemons? Any advice on what to start out with?
The short answer to everything you just asked is yes. You can field Daemons in both 40k and Fantasy, it is acceptable etiquette to do so, and the models are completely transferable except for the Soul Grinder which is 40k only.
I put my Daemons of square bases specifically to allow me to easily field them in Fantasy. As far as lists that work well in both editions, you'll just have to tinker around and see what works for you. Maybe somebody in the Forum has a good list they use in both?
Points values arn't the same and there are different powers, magic, gifts, icons and banners. So a 2000 point list in 40K will not be a 2000 point list in fantasy. Most all of the models you can use as the equivilent 40k. Some may need to be distinguished such as allures and bloodreaper..(The seargents of the squad.)
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Everything except the Grinder is transferrable. I play mainly Fantasy but also use my Daemons for 40K. There are some big differences in the two books so it will take some tinkering. EX. Furies are great in Fantasy for their speed and versatility and in 40K just about everyone says to leave them at home.
Enjoy playing both games. I think you will find Daemons in Fantasy to be to your liking. From what I hear they are a middle-of-the-pack army in 40K but one of the top 2 or 3 in Fantasy.
a couple of questions :
it is legal to play in 40k with square bases or at least friendly? i have a immense fantasy daemon army square based.
i saw on the site Gale Force Nine - Welcome!! there are wonderful aids for player along with magnetic round bases but since the same measures for square and round let the square ones angles gettin out of the round bases once put square on round, it is legal to buy for example , 30mm round bases for the 25 mm sqaure fantasy bases so to have the square ones perfectly remaining inside the round one being slightly bigger?
Last edited by watchman; July 6th, 2009 at 16:15.
Models must be put on the bases they are supplied with, so square bases are totally fine.
I use Daemons in both systems, with mostly the same lists.
2-3 Tzeralds in chariots
Nurgald on Palanquin (Fantasy only, sucks in 40k)
Fiends, Fiends, and more Fiends
20 or so Plaguebearers (1 big anvil in Fantasy, multiple small units in 40k for objective capping)
Flesh Hounds (Fantasy only, suck in 40k)
DPs (40k only, sucks in Fantasy)
3x Tzeralds on chariots, bolt, gaze, MoS, WAL
3x 6 Fiends with might
4x 5 PBs
2x 10 Bletters
3x Tzeentch DPs with bolt and gaze
3x Tzeralds, chariots, MoS, FoT
Nurgald BSB, Palanquin, level 1, NV, ST
16 PBs, fc
2x 10 Bletters or PHorrors
2x 5 Furies
2x 5 Khorne Dogs
2x 3 Fiends
Mostly the same units across the board, with cheap alternatives filling in (Dryads = PHorrors, Chaos dogs = Khorne dogs, Cold Ones = Fiends).
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thanks for the reply,
so , if i understood correctly , you use square bases on 40k system also right?
your lists are very good, i agree with the mentioned difference in reliability for dogs and palanquin in both systems that's also good cause create more "room" for models like fiends (that i love in both systems) in a 40k list
Funny thing according to the BGB you can field square based daemons. It says you must field them with the base it comes with, it never said it has to be the circle one.
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