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Hai d00dz and d00dets,I am currently considering starting a chaos daemon army and wanted to know if someone would give me some advice on good builds for a "DaemonZilla" list YES,i want 5 MC's in my army but am having trouble deciding which are the most competitive.
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Well the keeper of secrets and bloodthirster would be best bets for your hq and Soulgrinders I would take over DPs in your heavy support and take some fiends and plaguebearers along with them.
Considering that is direct linked from my signature not sure we need to put it up again
idk, Daemonzilla isn't that competitive, especially with the new IG
Daemons and competitive don't mix, but Stelek's review is definitely your best bet.
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I hate competitive armies, I really do. Not only are they rarely any fun, but I've got a secret to tell you:
When you win with a competitive list, no one else believes it counts.
You aren't that awesome player who won the last tournament; you're that cheesy bastard with the beardy list who stole the last tournament.
To make it worse, what is and is not competitive can change from year to year, so the $300 army you bought this year may not be competitive at all the next.
If you want to have fun and make friends, then play what's fun for you, not what's competitive.
If you just want to win as often as possible...then you're playing for the wrong reasons.
Anyway, to get back on topic, I agree with the others in this thread. Daemons are too random to truly be competitive, but they are a lot of fun.
The most competitive list would probably be Daemonzilla with 2 greater daemon HQs, 3 Daemon princes (Soulgrinders don't last long, and they need too much room when deepstriking), any of the troop choices (mostly for objective grabbing, and nurglings to tarpit the enemy), any of the elite choices (besides beasts of nurgle), and none of the fast attack.
As for "cheese" i rarely play with cheese lists,maybe it's because i don't like getting my ass handed to me by other cheese lists?.
Honestly if i want your lecture i will ask for it,k?.
Eradicating chav scum since 2005!
You did ask for it. You started a thread asking for advice on making a competitive list, and my advice was "don't".
I'm an idiot for not liking cheesy lists? That's interesting. Personally, I think being an 'idiot' has more to do with being hostile towards advice and criticism, especially when it comes from a person who sacrificed their own time to try and help you.
In response to your claim, it greatly depends on where you play. If the tournament is completely decided upon victory/defeat, then yes, you're going to have the cheesy lists winning most weeks.
On the other hand, most of the tournaments I play at also place a lot of weight on sportsmanship and how well the army is constructed/painted. Since victory/defeat is only 1/3 of the hobby (sportsmanship and craftsmanship being the other 2/3), we see a lot of people win the tournaments who don't necessarily win every game.
So from my perspective, the real problem is that the environment you're playing in isn't fun. I'd either look for a new place to play, not play in the tournament, or just play what you enjoy and accept that there will be some games that you'll have a lot of trouble winning.
If the only thing you enjoy is 'winning', then that's fine too, but be prepared to change your army often, with each new codex release, and don't expect to make many friends. You certainly didn't make any here. ^_^