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Hey guys. I've been searching in all of the internets for a Chaos Daemons list. I was looking at any pantheon list around 2k points. I was hoping to find ones with the Masque or Epidemius as hq's, but still have the balance needed in order to survive on the table. Can anybody point me in the direction of such a list, or provide any suggestions as to what hq's would be brest for pantheon/balanced daemon army? Thanks! You guys rock, as usual.
A list with either of those characters that is good will not excist. Epidemius is only good with nurgle units and the masque sucks horribad. If you would like a pantheon list browse around the army lists and look at mine or view my signature for several armies.
My upcoming blog in the works:
Would a skulltaker be better than any of those?
Epi is only useful in pure Nurgle. I wouldn't say the Masque is horribad, but she is extremely fragile and a bit of a one-shot wonder.
The skulltaker can do some damage, but he's pricey and ultimately slow. He can murder any character, but nobody is dumb enough to let him catch anything worthwhile. Moving like infantry with an uber killy assault character = fail.
As Tyrius said, check out the army list section and Stelek's site for some good Daemon builds. Get a good feel for what you want out of your army, proxy things, test them out, and find what works.
The Pantheon list does indeed exist and is quite potent, unfortunately few people are able to build it. It is very much a case of trial and error, determining which units and upgrades work well and how to compensate for shortcomings of the army as a whole.
I myself have been attempting to build a pantheon list and it is coming along quite nicely if i do say so myself, by no means is it perfect or any where near complete but I like it, it has an astonishing success rate and few people are abe to deal with the pain it brings to the table.
Unfortunately only 1 of the special character heralds are really usable in a pantheon list, The Blue Scribes. Skulltaker is too slow, Epidemius is for mono-nurgle and The Masque is far too fragile. The Scribes however bring some much needed anti-tank to the tableand have a great role as Shooting utility.
If you want a fun non-competitive list then it is quite easy to make, if you want a tournament list you better be in for the long haul!
My 1.5k, which has yet to let me down:
Blessing of the Blood God
In 2k, I add another thirster, get IH on all the DPs, then add more Plaguebearers. Simple.
Ok, I've chosen my hq's: Lord of Change and a Bloodthirster. Don't know what gifts I'll give them yet.
I'd advise against the LoC, he's simply too expensive and has nothing to justify his cost. Not enough dakka, not good enough in combat. Just grab another BT.
BT should go for might and blessing, S8 is too good to ignore and blessing is a bargain.
Ok, so 2 Bloodthirsters. What about elites? I thought about getting some flamers, fiends, and bloodcrushers.
Fiends are the best, speedy, hitty, and cheap.