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Hello people. I am collecting a Thousand Sons/Emporers children fluffy army because i like them and they look completely awesome. I have played a few games and although a lot of people say it is not advised to use pure cult troops especially in smaller games I have really enojoyed using them and they have usually earned back there points in games or at least having soo many nasty troops on the field means nothing gets targeted befoew anything else, and as of yet i am yet to loose a full squad of any marines.
Although i enjoy using them i have looked into the other cult troops choices ie the plague marines and Bezerkers. I know lots of people use plagues in fluffy and competative games more so than prehaps any other cult troops (especiall thousand sons ;'[). I do not like the idea of nurgle rotting away my army and do not like the models, i think bezerkers on the other hand are a wikid looking troop choice and seem to come to mind when most people think of chaos.
I have thought of a little fluffy background to keep the overall army looking neat(ish). The zerkers can be part of the TS allies and painted blue and perhaps i may even rub away the Khorne marks and use them as blessed CC units, ie rather than be completely bloodthirsty maniacs they have magically vlessed weapons and a second strike follows the weapon of psychic energy making them magically enhanced bloody warriors. It works for me i dont know if people disagree but they are zerker models so im sure there will be no disputes. However i can see massive benefits to a few plague marine equivilents in a game, would it be acceptable to use standared marines paint them in black and lich purple (instead of bright pink) and use an idea in a previopus forum saying there old noise marines who have dulled senses (extra toughness slow init and FnP) and something else to aid with the fact charging units loose there charge bonus. Will this minor alteration be enough to justify calling hem plague marine equivilents in more serious games. My friends think it is a cool idea and have no problem, will some people have a problem with it due ti W.Y.S.I.W.I.G(or whatever it is called)
Again sorry for the long post i doo like my chaos fluff and thanx in advance for any help!!
Hehe, that was me who sugested that. I think just changing the paint on normal guys will be enough for friendly games as long as the modles really stand apart from the rest of the army but you're gonna need to do more if you plan to play in a tourni.
Maybe you can do them as fat marines. Emperor's Children who have succumbed to gluttony and have eaten too much. It may sound stupid but would give the visual effect of plague marines and also be fluffy enough to allow for the rules to work.
Saying that though, I'm not entirely sure how you'd make it. It would have to GS sculpted guts on the marines but you'd have decide if you want to have the armour expanding too, cracking where to gut has gotten too big or even have the abdomon armour removed entirely
Hehe ye i just had another look at the post and it seemed like a pretty cool idea.
I know making the sub plague marines a bitrotten and bloated with corruption is a good idea, however even though i really like chaos i dont really like the rotton puss look on any marines, this has nothing to do with the fact that nurgle was Tzeentches opposite in the previous codex's
In my opinion the thing that really makes chaos stand apart from the loyalists for me is the cult troops, regular CSM just seem too tac squad like for my liking, and i did have a SM army a few years ago untill i discovered chaos . Being that my opinion i only want to take cult troops just to stand apart from the general Space marineness (not a word but owell) That considering they will look qhite different from the TS and Zerkers, however will bare similarities to the emporers children being old EC themselves, withought the sonic weaponary and doom siren weilding champion.
Being newish to come back to 40k i wont be participating in tourniments (im skint enough) but i might go to the games workshop and have a blast against some other people, the 2 i visit are haviong a campaign over the summer, i may attend to see other armies other than the regular necs sm and eldar. However i can see the idea that in a serious game, purple CSM wont be allowed to represent plague marines.
I am sorry to double post but i have another concern about my models. The concern is about the transfers.
I use the thousand son transfers and have tried to use the SLaanesh sign within the white circle. On he CSM transfer sheet it is the top line containing 8 of them. I am sure this is what is used on the picture on the Emporers children box set. With the thousand son one i cut close to the yellow outline and make a cut into the middle from where there is a slight gap between the mouth and the tail, this works for me and avoids and creases in the transfer however this cannot be done with the big slaaneshi sign, and the one i have tried has come out all creased and rubbish. ANy tips on how to prevent this on the curved shoulder pad of a marine?
I would use the Emporers children ie the yellow winged claw thing, however it wouldent show up seeming as my mens shoulder pads are bright pink, if only the claw was black like it appeared on dawn of war 1 and the old chaos codex (page 73 explaining the legions of chaos)
Sorry Scorp but I havnt used transferes since my first Ultramarines army (bout 12 years ago) and for good reason: they are a pian in the ass on shoulder pads for just the reason you mentioned.
I'd sugest scrap the transferes and go for freehand. This may sound hard but there are some really good tips in all the GW painting guides as well as some tutes on here I think. I used to use a very fine felt-tip pen to draw on my Templar icons to pads (I used the wrong type of pen so it faded after a year or so). I know I've seen a thread in one of the forums here about using pens to draw on marking, writting ect, I think its in the painting forum. Take a look coz its worth trying it out. The Slaneesh icon is really easy to draw too so with just a little practce you hould be fine
No one says you must use death guard models as the only plague marines in your army. You could have iron warrior models and say they have plague marine stats because they are so resolute and part machine. It is really up to you to model your units and make your army however you like. The only important thing to stick to is to somehow let your opponent know what he is facing before the battle begins so either have them use nurgle symbols, simply tell your opponent what they are, or write "plague marine" on the base or something.
There is also no reason your plague marines have to be rotting. I'm making a "purge" renegade chapter army and my plague marines are going to fairly unrotted. My reasoning is that most of them are rotted on the inside of their armor, but the plague hasnt really spread to their armor yet because they are fairly new to nurgle compared to the death guard. Again, as long as you back it up with some reasonable fluff and let your opponent know what's going on, you can do whatever you like. Field the army you want.
P.S. You need to slow down when you type. Some parts of your posts are barely readable and your use of there for all instances of their, they're, and there is atrocious. =p