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    Lash Sorcerer vs Lash Prince

    The lash of submission is undeniably a very valuable psychic power. However, how you field it is a pretty difficult question.

    In my opinion, it seems like if you put it on a sorcerer you're going to be using a 145 point lash of submission. If you put it on a daemon prince, you're going to be using a 155 point daemon prince with the ability to move enemy units.

    I'm very curious to hear what you all think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    The lash of submission is undeniably a very valuable psychic power. However, how you field it is a pretty difficult question.

    In my opinion, it seems like if you put it on a sorcerer you're going to be using a 145 point lash of submission. If you put it on a daemon prince, you're going to be using a 155 point daemon prince with the ability to move enemy units.

    I'm very curious to hear what you all think.
    The problem of using the sorcerer is first the question of mobility... Rhino? If so he can't lash while inside... Wings/Bike? Then he needs a body guard or he will almost surely be plastered... On foot? Well then that 2 foot range might not be enough to reach where you want it to.

    The daemon prince on the other hand can take wings as the sorcerer but is harder to kill and much more capable of acting as a stand alone unit.

    There really is no contest between the two in my mind.
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    Well, for one, IronAngel mentioned a really good point that a lot of people overlook - A Lash Sorcerer must reside within a unit or must risk wondering around on his own (which is dangerous against a smart opponent). If being escorted, then he can't use good mobility to be Lashing all the proper units (sometimes, not always) and flying off on his own, he risks being sniped/Lascannon'd etc (Even with cover, it's worth it to waste a couple Heavy shots to take down something so important.

    That aside, it depends much on how you want to use the power. If you're going to a Vindicator/Obliterator template combo then at least one Sorcerer is probably a good idea, he doesn't need to charge in to do his job, he can sit atop a Rhino and just move stuff around. The problem with using a Prince in this way is that he must be close, but if he charges in he risks friendly fire (like whoa...) or being shot at because he's nearby, possibly in the open. And, once in CC, he won't be firing off any Lash attacks.

    But if you just use it to help him get early/fast charges for your Daemon Prince and other units then (of course) a Prince will work just fine.

    Overall, a Lash Prince is probably better, but against certain armies you may want the Lash going off every turn (vs. say Ork Mob armies or Tyranid hordes). I'd suggest looking at your list and seeing what kind of support you want/need to put into it.

    Also, keep in mind that Princes are much stronger HQ's in general than Sorcerers and just cost a pinch more.

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    Having run both it is simply a matter of opponent. The lash-Sorc is more like a scalpel. It comes in and can purpose remove an enemy HQ or big mean multi-wound thing (IE Carnifex). It has this ability by virtue of its high initiative and its force weapon. The Prince is more likely a machete. It cannot accomplish a specific task as well. However it is capable of much more.

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    That all makes sense.

    Would you mind taking a quick look in the army list section at the list I posted?

    I'm leaning towards the Daemon prince, but I'd like a second or third opinion.

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    Lash Sorcerer is the as many other posts will indicate, a character assassin and has served me so well it led to the death of two warbosses and two lashed squads of 30 ork boys.

    Truly fantastic

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    It's actually not too difficult to have protection for a sorcerer. First of all, if he is in a rhino, he can still fire Lash out of a fire point. If you make him a termie sorcerer he can deep strike with a unit of terminators. Give him a jump pack and he can be in a unit of raptors.
    I personally think it just depends on how your going to use Lash. A Daemon Prince could potentially be used to Lash a target closer to the Prince so that he may assault it, seeing as how a Daemon Prince will probably do better in an assault. A sorcerer however will probably be better for simply moving your targets around, including into the range of weapons wielded by the squad you put him in.
    In the end its just a matter of taste, function, and feel.

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