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Two Vindicators,Two obliterators
Two defilers,Two obliterators
One vindicator, One defiler,Two obliterators
Hi im kinda stuck for choices for heavy support they all seem to be good.
I have around 500 points to spend on heavy support for my army and i was wondering whats the best.
3 vindicators/ 3 defilers / 3 sets of 2 obliterators etc thanks.
Last edited by bennyboy6189; April 12th, 2010 at 16:50.
Well i guess it depends on how your army works, mine for example is designed to get up close and nasty, and vindicators do a great job with an ord10 weapon on troops or vehicles, and i don't need to worry about the range limitations. Defilers are nice for assault, but there S8 is a little too low against tough tanks, even with ord bonus'.
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What is the best heavy support???, undoubtedly it is a land raider. the best armor and weapons we can get. but it is not always the most effective, and definitely not the most cost effective.
Flexible has to be oblits or even havocs, but they are slow and do not help with drawing anti tank fire from our rhinos.
What do people use, well it depends on their lists, i really like defilers and lascannon toting dreads(whats not to love about a armored model that can fire 2x per turn)(i had one great game where my lascannon dread instant deathed 4 tyranid warriors and exploded a rhino in 3 turns)
vindicators are outstanding, but they do not have long range, and with only a 1/3 chances of hitting are more chancy than most chaos generals feel we can count on.
preds are well liked in a standard autocannon with lascannon sponsons configuration but.... they just do not light my fires
so in answer to your question, what is the best heavy support for chaos??? it depends on what you want to do and how you want to play
There is a choice that is strangely lacking on your list -- 3 predators with Autocannon and Lascannon sponsons. It has more shots that your other choices, has awesome range, and with careful use of cover, armor 13 is extremely survivable.
Yes, they are not as 'Chaosy' as your other choices. But they work. Really well.
Where is the 9 Oblits option?
Mine tends to be:
6 Oblits & Land Raider(w/DP)
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I'm biased to say obliteratoes but that is because they never ever let my down, they are just so versatile.
I'm a big fan of the Defiler/Vindicator/2 Oblits heavy choice.
Though sometimes ill change it up and do Vindicator/Pred with Auto and HB/3 Oblits
I've had alot of luck with that super cheap Predator.
im disapointed in the lack of pred in this thread!
my 2 lascannon side sponsons always get decently lucky in taking out armor and creatures.
BUT!, if i had to choose 2 oblits and a defiler is the next best. Oblits can cover anything and the defiler in close combat can devastate, with a nice battlecannon on the side.
My heavy choice of a pred and defiler seem to work very nicely though!
To be honest choosing Heavies is very much based on what anti-vehicle capability I already have, so I didn't vote.
For example, If I have plenty of Meltas in Rhinos, Jumping or on Bikes, I don't need to focus my Heavies only on busting armour.
Currently I am fielidng a Raider with Slaneshi Terminators (inc' Chain Fist) with good success, so this already gives me some Las power.
What's in my general lists - a Defiler and 2+ Obliterators; plus a Raider (dedictaed for Terminators), and sometimes another unit of Obltierators or a AC/LC Predatror.
The Plasma Cannons on the Oblits are as useful as their Lascannons. I rarely Deep Strike them, prefering them for rear defence and Tank/MEQ busting at range.
PS: MEQ players get a suprise with Slaaneshi Terminators (Plasma combi and Flamer), especially when I attache my Nurgle DW armed terminator Lord too (I play Black Legion so no apology for the weird mix, and World Eaters).