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How come that noone is using Abbadon in his list. From my experience he's pretty good
at 1500 points or less he can take up a huge amount of points for a Hq, hes more often found in larger games.
he can be seen a lot at 1500 point tournament type scenarios as well.
He's pretty good, I'm sure you won't get much argument about that. The major factor in his lack of use is cost-effectiveness. He is just too expensive if you weigh him against the other options you have. He is also slow moving, having to footslog anywhere he goes to get in to combat. Once he's in combat, sure, he'll tear some SMurfs up, but...
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I usually play with kharn in my 1750 games but he was way to badass and since I rolled like 4 1s and he killed half my zerker squad i felt that he needed to be replaced. so I tried abbadon. i got 10 attacks and totaly destroyed a Storm Guardian squad and then he continued to kill off loads of other eldars. was so fun to watch.
1 in 6 game turns, you will hurt yourself and not get to attack.
well, rather have 1 wound every ~6 turns if "lucky" then killing whole squads of my own people
i like to use kharn in a squad of daemons or on his own hunting vehicles. keep my berzerkers well away most of the time lol
Abyy isn't a bad model for the cost. However, here are at least two reasons why he's not very popular:
1) Difficulty in delivering him into close combat
2) For over 100 points cheaper, Kharn is virtually just as good on the charge against MEQs. Plus, Kharn can fit in a rhino.
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Abbadon is a monster, but after 4-5 games using him (Between 1500-2000 pt games), he never once came close to earning his points. And after you put him in a squad with other Termis, and put that in a Landraider so he can be delivered into Assault safely... That's getting close to half your army, for 6 models... and those are base termis, with no upgrades. Ehhh... I'll stick with the 2 zerker squads (With 3 Plas Pistols and a P.Fist) with rhinos. They can hold objectives, threaten a MUCH larger area, are more durable, and would fare much better against non-MEQs.
From what I've seen for special character usage, the ones which are taken the most provide armywide benefits or can provide something the army lacks in order to be worth taking more. The CSM specials like abby are all really just tooled out for destruction and bring very little for army synergy. Paying the extra points for more killing power isnt necessary when we have plenty of that elsewhere & everywhere!
I wouldnt count fabius as an armywide buff either since his ability must be paid for per model unlike other army specials like shrike, eldrad & vulcan which are all free. I think he would be worth it if the enhanced warrior ability could be added to any unit rather than just basic CSM tho! Monster zerkers? yummmm