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just got my 3rd edition chaos codex (I collect codices and have nearly all the 3rd edition, now just need eldar) and i was reading through it and comparing it to the 4th ed codex and..... wtf was going through the guy who wrote this codox's mind. There was rules for each legion, why were'nt those rules implemented into 4th edition.
So real annoyed at the guy who wrote that but its obvious these rules will make a comback in 5th ed. So what do you think would make suitable rules for each of the legions and i would really like to see some Alpha legion ones as they're my fav legion so please post away.... (but were keeping the "We are Alpharius" rule )
Last edited by Pekolie; June 29th, 2010 at 22:47.
The same basic rules from the last dex would be fine by me, obviously tweaked where necessary for the current rule book...
back when the current codex was launched there was turmoil and a big one. Still today, just like you, chaos players are divided about it. Only thing i can say is to play old dex when with pals and play current dex at your local game shop
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its been covered before, but i think the chaos space marine codex is by far one of the worst written (though the new tyranids one, being a NEW codex isn't very special either)
its sacrificed all sorts of fluff for gameplay. for every unit, there's a better unit so most lists seem extremely linear.
in 3 years from now, when we get a new codex, i hope they give us back legions. or at least one page each seems fair.
Like Vertejaune said, it was written from a purely gameplay stance.
It was ment for an 8 year old to pick it up and be able to use it. You might find Gav Thorpe to have an interesting point of view on this, as he is one of the Codex writters for GW.
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Codex Chaos Space Marines is just what it says. It's a codex that describes Space Marines devoted to Chaos in one way or another. In the current setting in the Warhammer 40K universe there most CSMs are actually renegades. These renegades are sometimes commited to a specific god, sometimes they are not. Sometimes they get aid from Berzerkers, Plague Marines etc, and the rules are there to reflect that.
I would say that i didn't like the last codex rules about the legions. they were too simplistic to fully describe the tactics and combat doctrine of the legions. I like the current codex, because it gives space for a further development of legion specific rules. Whether or not they will come is up for debate, but i'm glad I doesnt have an halfassed attempt on two pages to try to describe the world eater history, doctrine and rules. That just doesnt cut it.
So the current codex is good at what it's meant to do - describe traitor marines and renegades. Guess why the finally made Huron into a real Special character? It's not meant to describe the legions, because that would have made the codex twice as thick and you blokes would complain about the price tag instead of complaining about a bland codex.
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I would have thought (esp GW being the way they are) that the long-term plan was to develop Dexes for each Legion: Iron Warriors, Death Guard, Night Lords et al, akin to what exists for Loyal Space Marines. ie one generic Dex representing the majority of SM armies, and then distinct Dexes for rare individual cases e.g. Blood Angels, Space Wolves.
I do agree however, that the potential up-selling from individual Legion Dexes would require individual model ranges which even now are quite lacking. I imagine that the Legion Dexes got lost in the Warp somewhere in the explosion of updated SM Dexes, with the corporate decision that the current CSM Dex is reasonably sufficient as it stands.
Last edited by krytie; July 1st, 2010 at 12:42.
Check out this post in the rules development forum. Complete rules for each of the 9 Chaos Legion codexes.
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...s-codexes.html (Legion Chaos Codexes)
Aplha Legion list is on page 4 in post #34
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While the fluff loss has been frustrating for almost all of us, the rules themselves are still quite playable. I got good use of my Night Lords by running them as counts-as Noise Marines, for example. You might try something like running cultists as 'lesser daemons', or simply switch to a Rhino-based list until the next revision, or switch to the Marine Codex to make use of Korsarro Khan.
For what it's worth, I find it very unlikely that Legion-specific rules will return. Judging from current trends, I'd expect a Chaos Codex revision to have some special characters that bestow a Legionesque quality, but nothing more. The Legion restrictions were a hindrance to sales--World Eaters never bought Thousand Sons models, and so on--and GW has generally been handing off fluff to the Black Library and Fantasy Flight Games.
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