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Hi everyone, I am brand spanking new to the 40k universe and was looking for some help. After reading the forums and seeing some people Armies builds, I am slightly (understatment) confused about how to go about putting my models together. I see the different weapon choices and such and start wondering if I have already messed up putting some models together. I have pretty much been following the instrctions on putting them together in the box. However before i get too far let me tell you what I am working with. I have decided on Chaos Space Marines, I have purchased the Chaos Space Marine Battleforce, the codex and rulebook thus far. Last night I started putting the models together and today I found these forums. I see plasma/meltaguns and power fists and such, and I am wondering if the models need to accurately reflect those weapon/armor upgrades. I am sure they do, but I just need some experienced help before I get too far and have to start over again. I am reading through the codex, and I am a fan of Khorne/Slaanesh, I honestly have no idea how to even start going about creating a 1000 point army (which is my goal). I was told that with the battleforce it would be roughly 500 points and a good place to start. I appreciate any help, thank you.
Hi John. Welcome to 40k, and the LO forums.
If you've read through your rulebook, you'd have picked up that 40k relies on what is known as WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get). Even in a friendly play setting, your opponent will appreciate it if they can just look at your minis and know what they're going against. On the other hand, this can only be done to a certain extent, so there will always be a bit of, "This guy is set up with x and y," before the game.
The most important things to keep WYSIWYG are those special weapons - plasma guns, meltas, flamers, the different turrets on a Predator, the side weapons on a Defiler, etc. It sounds like you already know whats what; the CSM codex also has some handy special weapons pics on pages 82 and 83. When starting to assemble my first Plague Marines way back, I actually had a plasma gun on my champion, thinking it was just a fancy bolter, so if you're past that point, that's good.
Your first CSM squad will likely be sporting a pair of meltas (and I believe that's all that comes in the battleforce), while their champ will have a powerfist. Of course, this is just a matter of general, optimal preference. The second squad can likely get the plasmas (if you're mixing the 5 CSM and Possessed for a second full squad, which is just fine).
Then, of course, you've got your Berserkers. Those are straight forward. Most people don't bother with the plasma pistols, so that's the only thing to watch for there. You may have to get another PF someplace (local gaming group, bits sites) for the champ unless you just give him a PW - both viable choices.
Make sure to assemble the mounted bolter on the Rhino, and your WYSIWYG is complete for what you've got in the box. CSM do get a lot of toys (various grenades, bolters and bolt pistols, close combat weapons), but since all that is standard, you don't have to stress much if you don't fit all that on each model. They'd get really bulky if you did. The general rule there is to make sure you at least have everything represented in the squad as a whole. So some guys have the pistol/chainsword combo, some have the bolter, and strap those little grenade/pistol side cloth things on a couple guys.
Hopefully that gets you going. Read a few lists, and comments on 500 - 1000 pt lists, and you should have a good idea of where you'll want to go with the rest of it.
Thanks for the response Dave, it really does help me a lot. I was just getting confused with all the different pieces in the box, and the variations in the pictures, but I am sure if I create them all I will have a pretty good mix of the different weapons set ups. I appreciate the fast response. Oh one more thing, should i expect the bad quality pictures that come with the battleforce for build instuctions with future models? The directions are in black and white and are quite dark.
If the instructions are difficult to read, try looking on the GW website. They have step by step build instructions. Normally though, on the back of the box is a set of rough instructions. If you need more help, feel free to ask someone on LO.
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you'll find that building them isn't hard at all. When I bought my first box of berzerkers (my first purchase) I was also following the directions and a bit overwhelmed/confused. The more you do it, the easier it will be, and when you pick it up, you'll wonder why it didn't make sense from the very beginning.
when it comes to WYSIWYG, it really depends on where you're playing. All of my friends started out together and were complete greenhorns. we had no idea about WYSIWYG. most groups are understanding as long as you're not using empty bases or cardboard cutouts to represent things. It's only when you get into tournament play that WYSIWYG is a requirement.
As for where to go from here, I'd next look into the spectacular new Daemon Prince model that GW just released. The prince is pound for pound our best HQ unit. Then as you branch out further, you can start looking into Defilers and Obliterators and the like. But welcome to the hobby, death to the false emperor, and BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
as has been said, the only things you realy need to work on is the special things, like the power fist on your champion or the melta/plasma/flamers on your 2 guys in a squad. every one else in your army is assumed to have standard equipment, so you do not need to give them all grenades/bolters and bolt pistol and CCW. I actually use the differentation to distingish squads. one squad of 10 has bolters, the other squad of 10 has close combat weapons and bolt pistols