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i used to play warhammer 40k back in '92, but it didn't last too long once my friends and i went our separate ways. i had a chaos space marine army, and i never lost them (much to the chagrin of my wife). i've been reading the books for years, and i never thought i'd get back into modeling, but last year i bought tide of iron, and wow i forgot how much fun wargaming is. fast forward to now: two of my friends are interested in WH40K, and i can say i'm ready to start collecting skulls again too.
first off: wow has the game changed since my day. it is way more user friendly. also, there are way more chaos models you can buy now, and that is awesome. back in my day, you had to order from a single piece of paper that had all the models they sold, and there wasn't much for chaos. i just had to paint my space marines chaos colors. seeing what's available now really has lit a fire in me for the models.
now to where you guys come in. i've been reading the chaos board pretty intensely the last week or so, and there's lots of good stuff here. i'm getting a pretty good idea what kind of models i want to get. so let's get to my questions.
1. are the models the same size as the 1st edition ones? they sure are more expensive now, and from pics they do look bigger.
2. my friends are looking to collect space wolves and an as-of-yet unnamed space marine army. what should be my immediate acquisitions?
my army of old consists of
5-havoc marines(autocannon, lascannon, conversion beam, 2 missile launchers)
dreadnought with two twin-linked heavy bolters
mole mortar (i don't think these are even used anymore...sucks)
just a couple of tidbits: i never liked nurgle and slaanesh. i always leaned towards khorne and tzeentch, despite their rancor towards each other. i hear lots of talk about how plague bearers are awesome, but i'd only get those if they were really necessary.
so that's my first post. good hunting!
Can't answer for size.
Your havocs can only have 4 weapons, but can choose the special weapons.
Dreadnoughts are OK depending on playstyle, but can only have one heavy heavy weapon (or CCW) plus a CCW or M launcher.
Yep, mole mortars don't exist.
As for what to get, IMO, berzerkers, rhinos (some more standard marines later) and a DP are a must seeing your army, and for some heavy support a defiler and some obliterators or a vindicator, plus some terminators (and MoT) for some elites.
That should give you a balanced army, to work towards, building it up with a combination of support and base units.
By the way, your assault marines probably won't be that useful any more.
Models are the same height, the ratio has changed a bit though. In the first couple editions of the miniatures had very exaggerated arms, hands, and feet. Now everything looks just how it should, ratio wise at least.
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Thanks for the feedback. I definitely think my first order will be berzerkers, terminators, a demon prince, and a rhino. After that I will work on getting a defiler and some oblits.
A battleforce might be a good buy. mix the possesed parts into the khorne berserkers and the CSM and you can get 20 CSM and 8 berserkers with a little something unique on each model. then you just need 2 rhinos and a DP and you are ready for 750. up till about 1000 the dread will work well just let it cover a flank.
good rules of thumb are 1 troop for every 500 points, always get a powerfist, and if you are going to mechanize, bring armor to distract from your rhinos.
ok so i went and made my choices. i ended up going with a battleforce set, given that i found it online for pretty cheap. then i got an extra rhino, a demon prince, and a squad of terminators.
Sounds good so far, what you'll want later is something for some heavy support, and to distract fire from your rhinos, a defiler or vindicator serves this purpose well.
By the way, did you use the possessed for more chaos marines and spread the parts around into your other units, or build them as possessed?
I plan on getting a defiler once I get some battles under my belt. And I haven't decided what I will do with the possessed marines.
Personally, I would suggest mixing the parts from your possessed throughout your units to give your models a bit of character, and to make them a bit nicer, in my experience possessed aren't too great in the game, but it's your choice.