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I found it easier to convert the twin-linked bolters, because you don't have to worry about fuel tanks/lines. Simply cut away one of the bolter barrels, then place the head and coils of a plasma pistol into its place and green-stuff the gaps.
I said converting the twin-linked ones, not the combi-bolters. Twin-linked are easiest to work with, and you have multiples of them so you don't have to worry if you mess one up. The reason I believe few people use combi-flamers is because the only really effective way to use them would be on horde armies through deepstrike, which kinda guarantees your Terminators become a suicide squad, and a squad of Terminators is not worth a dozen Ork boyz or hormagaunts. And that's IF you don't scatter away or worse, onto your target and mishap.
Combi-meltas are effective because you can use your target vehicle to shield yourself from the enemy (or if you target something like a Land Raider or Monolith, they earn their points back quickly), and combi-plasmas are effective because they can be fired from farther away, typically outside of charge range. Combi-flamers are too limited to be in widespread use, and don't guarantee safety or gaining points back.
Why use a weapon that you can only use once and has a risk of killing you? Much better to go with combi-meltas or flamers.
If you're close enough to flamer a target then it's the other player's fault for letting you get too close, plus combi-flamer will help soften the target up and can also hit nearby vehicles and units. Combi-meltas are helpful if you're about to assault a tank or just take out an annoying unit. Just because you have a 2+ armour save does not mean combi-plasma is a better option than combi-flamer/melta, you can still fail those armour rolls. Some of your logic for why plasma is better doesn't make sense.
Two main advantages of combi-plasma over combi-flamer: 1) Range 2) Versatility.
A rapid firing plasma gun kills almost twice as many MEQs as a flamer (assuming the flamer can reach 4 models). As well, plasma is just superior against monstrous creatures, bikers, transports, HQs, the list goes on and on...
Unless you're fighting hordes, the combi-flamer isn't an optimal choice.
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Still id rather take a weapon which i know doesnt have a chance of killing me.
my apologies, when i said "combi-bolter" and failed to mention what it was combined with, i meant twin linked bolters. Somewhere along the line I started using that term for TL bolts, maybe because its two bolters combined together or whatever. In person people generally know what I mean but I guess in a forum that comes out wrong. Soz
As for the Combi-flamer talk, makes sense to me why no one used them. The plasma's I never would have used last Edition with the multiple shots increasing wound chances outside of something with FnP(PMs), but after seeing others use them I'm starting to see the appeal. Guess I need another box of Terminators.