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I have been playing Black legion of chaos for about 3 months now. and i just cant win with them.heres my army any tips or tricks and upgrades for my ac's or lord and so on would be helpfull
1500 pts army list would be nice.
i play dark eldar and orc and nids alot.
and this is just the stuff i have i try to make my army a little of both cc and shooty so should i stick to just cc or go with just shooty?
my army list is uselly my prince with 150 pts of upgrades my 2 csm troop and 1 dread and then i add from there.
i would like a tip on how to not depend on just my prince i would like a army were i dont have to worry about lossing somthing.
and i have no blast templates and they seem to be usefull is the defiler the only blast template in chaos?
thats the info u guys need hopfully if u need more just post it thanks
and ill buy more troop
1 deamon prince
1 abaddon the dispoiler
1 kharn the betrayer
16 chaos space marines w/ccw 2 ac w/ power weps and furious charge 2w/plasma pistols
8 csm 6w/bolters 2/w plasma guns
12 beserkers 1 ac w/ power wep furious charge
2 dreadnoughts w/lasconon
1 dread w/ccw
5 havocs 1w/lascanon 1w/heavy bolter 1w/auto canon 1w/ missle luncher
5 raptors 2 w/flamers 1/ac with power wep and furious charge
3 bikes 1 ac w/ power wep and deamon icon
WHO SHOULD I GIVE DEMON Possession? because its a huge waste of points when he dies
what upgrades should i give my lord in a 1000 pts battle?or should i use a prince in a 1000 pts battle
Thats it so any help would be nice i will be willing to change anything or edit models to whatever just any help from u pro's would be nice!! (Y) Thanks o ya and ill buy stuff to
Uh... well is that your exact list... if it is, its illegal. If that is the models you have total.. well... uh still kinda bad. Who do you normally fight, how do you fight, what point value are your battles. All this would be very helpful if you want us to be able to help you.
You really need more basic space marines though, they are the meat of your army and nuver under-estimate numbers. Can't say much else with out more information.
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yeah, you have lots of high point units but not enough grunts....
what do you normally use of those things?
what a long strange trip its been
Your gonna need some serious tweaking to your list to make it more flexible.
I would suggest taking the following
1 Fast Attack
1 Heavy Support
take this for a more flexible beginners army.
Also what is your preferred tactic, cc or shooting or beeing more balanced.
try to aim at first for around 1500 or 2000pts game as these are the most numerous games played.
if you get the above list already full before reaching the point limit then take another troop choice first before getting others.
Take a lot more troops, they are very important in winning and capturing table quarters, bulk out your raptor squad a bit and don't use too many HQ's. If you play against marines take a defiler to scare them, and deathguard are resilient and a very tough speedbump. Daemons could work well in conjunction with them and the extra troops: plaguebearers and daemonettes are good.
Anything else, try the tacticas.
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Never underestimate the power of your regular troops. Don't overestimate them either. For instance, I would rather have a squad of 7 marines with a Mark of Chaos undivided and 2 plasma guns and 5 bolters than I would a squad of 10 unmarked marines with with just bolters. Also, I would rather have a squad of 6 ccw bolt pistol marines with an aspiring champ carrying a power weapon and an Undivided mark and furious charge, than a squad of 10 unmarked marines w ccw and bolt pistol. There will be naysayers who will tell you it's quantity of dice rolling that wins battles but I will disagree. It is QUALITY of dice rolling that will win. Everyone knows what happens to a bolter profile after you move. It sucks. But if you have to move that squad of seven you can still fire 4 high strength shots at range(provided you dont have a gets hot roll) and you are more likely to wound with plasma guns than bolters anyway. Face it, what would you rather do, roll 10 shots(bolters at a range farther than 12) that need usually 4 or higher to wound? Or 5 shots that need fours or higher and 4 shots that will likely need 3's. You get 1 less shot, but you get four higher quality rolls to work with, not to mention the armor penetration. So get some good weapons for your troops, don't leave home without at least 1 havoc squad with 3 or 4 heavy bolters for crowd control. Nobody likes to see the chaos player pull the defiler out of their bag and set that big ***** up the corner with a mutated hull and indirect fire and smoke launchers(hehe). I love the looks on their faces when my 3 obliterators set up camp. I usually hear them say, "oh great, obliterators!" and they are right, obliterators are great. But nothing makes me happier than when my Undivided squads come furious charging into their ranks and gutting them with strength 5 hits and power weapon slices at the same time as eldar attacks and faster than orks or even normal marines. Good luck and have fun!
Thanks guys i got some more troop gave them ccw im updating my list as what u guys tell me what to do so all ur help is whats making my list look so good i really would like some upgrades for a 1000 pts game for a lord or should i use a prince in a 1000 pts anyways thanks alot for ur help keep it coming plz
The only time you should use a DP in a 1,000 pt battle is if you play Thousand Sons, mainly because at that points value you lack CC ability.
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