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    I am planning on starting an iron warrior army after my 3000ptish DG army, but I have a few questions to ask. I do know about the what I should equipped or have for them but I need some clarification about them, just saying I might need your advice BiD and/or Dragonslayero since you guys are IW players.

    1)What do you guys ususally equip your ASp. champs if you guys have any?
    2)I understand about the 0-1 thing beening ignored for oblits for IW, but I might need someone to help me put that in more simple, easy terms, I have trouble w/ detail or confusing things like this

    THat is actually about it and later I will post the army list either here or in the army list section for any comments or any changes that needs to be made.

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    1) that varies immensely, they usually have a power weapon of some sort, but I often pick things that look cool usually :blink: .
    So I have 2 dudes with bolt pistol and power weapon, one with just a bolter (used to have twin bolter), 1 with plasma pistol and lightning claw, one with power fist and combi-melta...
    Best thing to do is probably not use champions at all hehe, to save points. I can't help myself, I have this urge to put a character in every squad, but you don't really need one in a shooty squad.

    2)0-1 means other armies can only take a maximum of 1 squad of Obliterators. For Iron Warriors there's no such limit, so you can use as many Obliterator squads as there are elites choices available.
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    Hey thanks BiD, I am somewhat new or going to be new at IW at I just had a few problems to understand them. Also, I probably for the normal squads, they will be mostly shooting, so I probably will have no asp. champ. Like I said thanks I will promise you that I will try to give glory to the Iron Warriors&#33;&#33;&#33;
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    That&#39;s the spirit&#33;
    I wish I didn&#39;t have this character addiction, I could increase squad size or possibly get a whole new (if somewhat small) squad if I&#39;d leave out the aspiring champions (and of course their equipment <_< ).
    If you have any other questions on Iron Warriors, feel free to ask away .
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    ok I will, acctually I waswondering if it is a good idea BiD if I gave my warsmith the chainfist? I was thinking of doing a conversion w/ the new IW warsmith&#39;s CC hand by making his a hand a mechanical chainsaw or something. I got inspiried by this idea from this one person that did something the same but a different way for his IWs.
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    Also, BiD, I was wondering if you can give normal tac squads the tank hunter skill w/ no asp. champ. This is a question that I was always wondering. And the list for the army is coming soon, like in a few hours, so I would maybe need you for editing to see if it is legal.
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    ok BiD or anyone else...here is the army list. I need to see if there is any problems or adjustments.

    The Iron Hands

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    Demon Prince Dreadclaw 200pts
    weargear:powerfist, furious charge, bionics, dread axe
    demon gifts:stature, str, flight, aura, armor

    Warsmith Ironhand 240pts
    weapons:master-crafted chainfist, plasma pistol, servo-arm, bionics(the servo-arm, master-craft and bionic reaches 50pts)
    demon gifts:aura, str, resilience, mutation, rune, essence(just saying this is a perfect 100pt worth of demon gifts)

    ELITE

    IronHand&#39;s chosen 277pts
    weapons:
    asp. Champ>chainfist, plasma pistol, demon str.
    6 marines>2 plasmaguns, 4 bolters
    Rhino>parastic possession, havoc launcher

    2 Obliterator Squads 210pts
    squad:3

    TROOPS

    5 10man Tac Sqaud 165pts
    1 marine>lascannon
    1 marine>plasmagun
    8 marine>bolters

    1 Tac sqaud 173pts
    asp. Champ.>power weapon, plasma pistol
    1 marine>autocannon
    1 marine>plasmagun
    6 marines>bolters

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    Basilisk 195
    weapons: earthshaker, heavy bolter
    upgrades:mutated hull, parastic possession, indirect fire

    Vindicator 190pts
    weapons:demolish cannon, combi-bolter
    upgrades:mutated hull, parastic possession

    Defiler 235pts
    weapons:battle cannon, reaper auto., heavy flamer
    upgrades:mutated hull, parastic possession

    Havoc Squad 192pts
    4 marines: missile launcher
    4 marines: bolters

    TOTAL POINTS: 2902
    TOTAL MODELS: 87

    I have 98 or maybe 198 more points to spend on either tank hunter skill for the TROOP SECTION and havocs or something else.
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    first off try not to post three posts in a row, instead edit your first post. Helps keep the clutter down
    second, your list isn&#39;t legal, as you have two lords (a daemon prince and warsmith are both lords)
    One other thing, giving your rhino parestic possesion is pointless as you only have a combi bolter really, I would drop that, get extra armour and smoke launchers instead, and have more points to spend else where, Also a bit more diveristy in your heavy weapons would be good, maybe get rid of a few lascannons for heavy bolters, freeing up a few more points.

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    ...actually at first the Warsmith was suppose to be a lieutenant, but seemes like I went overboard, So I am going to drop the demon prince. Second thing, I will stop w/ the post thing, I just see other people doing around here also, so I might got that from them. Third thing I will drop the parastic possession and add the extra armor and smoke launchers. Here is the new list so far, but I was wondering if havoc squads w/o asp.champ and tac squads w/o asp. champ can still all have tank hunter.

    The Iron Hands

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    Warsmith Ironhand 240pts
    weapons:master-crafted chainfist, plasma pistol, servo-arm, bionics
    demon gifts:aura, str, resilience, mutation, rune, essence

    ELITE

    IronHand&#39;s chosen 265pts
    weapons:
    asp. Champ>chainfist, plasma pistol, demon str.
    6 marines>2 plasmaguns, 4 bolters
    Rhino>parastic possession, havoc launcher

    2 Obliterator Squads 210pts
    squad:3

    TROOPS

    5 10man Tac Sqaud 165pts
    1 marine>lascannon
    1 marine>plasmagun
    8 marine>bolters

    1 Tac sqaud 173pts
    asp. Champ.>power weapon, plasma pistol
    1 marine>autocannon
    1 marine>plasmagun
    6 marines>bolters

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    Basilisk 195
    weapons: earthshaker, heavy bolter
    upgrades:mutated hull, parastic possession, indirect fire

    Vindicator 190pts
    weapons:demolish cannon, combi-bolter
    upgrades:mutated hull, parastic possession

    Defiler 235pts
    weapons:battle cannon, reaper auto., heavy flamer
    upgrades:mutated hull, parastic possession

    Havoc Squad 192pts
    4 marines: missile launcher
    4 marines: bolters

    TOTAL POINTS: 2690
    TOTAL MODELS: 86

    Here is the new list and please need any comments, criticisms, or if it needs corrections tell me.
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    To answer those questions first:
    a chainfist is a good choice if he has terminator armour and you&#39;re going to give him another assault thingy like a power weapon.
    Yes, squads of the troops section can always take Tank Hunters, but I wouldn&#39;t do it as generally you have only 1 weapon capable of scratching armour anyway, so you&#39;ll end up paying a lot of points just to improve one weapon.

    Now, on the list .

    To use a chainfist, you need terminator armour as well. Personally I think a servo-arm isn&#39;t worth the cost, same with Daemonic rune, you should keep your Lord in a unit so he can&#39;t be targeted anyway.

    Using Chosen this way is a waste of points, you can use troops with the exact configuration. Again, chainfist requires terminator armour. I&#39;d drop the parasytic possession of the rhino, smoke and extra armour are mandatory however .

    You have only 2 troops. Both are good, but 2 troops is extremely minimal, and if you couple it with 3 elites and 4 heavies you&#39;ve pretty much taken &#39;abusing an army list&#39; to a new dimension :blink: . Add the fact that you have 3 ordnance... you gotta drop something here, use the Chosen as troops, and drop one of the heavies to get at least one more squad of troops.

    Drop the Basilisk&#39;s upgrades, you shouldn&#39;t be needing them. If a basilisk is targettable, it&#39;s going down anyway.

    You seem to be a big fan of Parasytic Possession, personally I wouldn&#39;t use it this much, but I suppose a Vindicator is pretty useless if it loses the Demolisher cannon .

    Give the Havocs the Tank Hunters skill.
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