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I am at the point where I have a pretty offensive army with all the good ingredients in it. The HQ, the Elite, the Core troops, the Heavy Support and the Fast attacks are all in good numbers and they all have their job, They are quite good when put together and with the list I use I can face almost any scenario or mission without fear.
I still have a 300 points to spend to get to 2000 pts and that's where I freeze... I can get almost any unit with that amount of points, I have 1 slot of everything free except for heavy support. So I could make an awesome hq with a retinue, an elite chosen terminator squad of 7 terminators with an aspiring champion, a possessed squad of 10 men (d. talons) with an aspiring champion or a squad of 8 berserkers complete with a tooled up aspiring champion...
I have all those models, fully painted and waiting to play. My heart is sinking when I see those terminators waiting to tear something apart but they rarely did any good in the past with the 4th edition rules, even if they look awesome. The possessed are a new troop I made from 10 space marines body that I equipped with 2 mutation sprue, they also look awesome and I even painted a rhino to their color scheme...
So who do you think would give me more for my bucks, the terminators or the possessed? I have a game tomorrow and I can take only one of those to battle.
It depends which one to take. Against weak armies like IG, SoB, WH or even Tyranids I'd go with Termies, because they can offer fire support and can maul in CC. Against things like Tau, Necrons and SM I'd go with possessed. Mainly because they'll shred through everything these armies have. Particularly useful against Necron and SM HQ's. A C'tan isn't going to like rending claws.
Possessed to me are better all around than Terminators. I do like terminators but I only find them useful in small squads Deepstriking onto a homer with all Pfists or Cfists. I'd go with the possessed. Their Rending and str 5 will serv you against light and heavy armored troops alike. They are more expendable too. I hate the fragility of Terminators. Dual wounds would make them more practical. Terminators are better vs crons than Possessed in my opinoin due to the Necron shortage of ap 2. Although the Ctan would fall considerably easier to the possessed I always field Terminators with pfists so it isn't too much a problem and are just as likely to inflict as many wounds as you would rend with the Possessed.
Wow long post, one of the longest I've done lol. Excluding rants that is.
i personally prefer possesed, thier rendin ability will strike fear into most foes and they have a fair number of high strength attacks so they can take on hord armies plus they look cool.
life is an icecream and you just have to lick it
Well the possessed squad seems to be a better choice for the price I pay them, but well used the terminators can be a pain, the fire power of 2 reaper autocannons is not something I would dismiss.
I'm playing against an eldar player today, it's going to be a special scenario where one player have to attack an objective and the other have to defend it. Some special rules make this "take the objective" rather difficult to play for both sides.
I made 2 lists last night, if I'm the attacker I'll take the possessed in a rhino and give them a tooled up aspiring champion to give my army some mobility. If I'm the defender then I'll take my 7 men terminator squad with 2 reaper autocannons, I'll put them in a covered spot and I'll protect a fire angle, this one should be really hard to take down or I'll just deep strike them and wreak havoc in the attackers lines.
Thanks for the replies.
7 termies, eh? you dont by any chance play Death guard do you
Hahaha, check under my avatar...Originally posted by Robizzle@Feb 3 2005, 15:56
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So to give a little follow up, I played my last night game with my squad of possessed and I must admit they did a lot. I won that game but it was a really close one and this squad was quite decisive in the outcome of the battle. The fact that they are fast when put inside a rhino and that the D. Talons are great close combat weapons. I didn't put an aspiring champion with them, they are good enought as it is.
All in all the possessed obliterated a striking scorpion squad... with some help from my Daemon prince Lord... and they went through a squad of banshees losing only 2 members to the exarch (yes he have I6). I must admit they are strong. I used their rhino to block the line of sight of heavy weaponry and I must admit it saved me a couple of marines therefore getting back its points in value.
All in all they seem to be better than terminators even if they don't shoot, the only thing I see it's that they don't have an invulnerable save and a power weapon, but D. talons do the work against any infantry squad, even elite eldar close combat unit are no match for them.
Edit: To say the truth I also loved the feeling I got when I took my possessed squad out of the case to put them on the table, my opponent saw them 10 little guys with mutations in place of their arms and he went "what the hell is that!", lol if it happen to you tell your opponent it's a surprise
All in all they seem to be better than terminators even if they don't shoot, the only thing I see it's that they don't have an invulnerable save and a power weapon, but D. talons do the work against any infantry squad, even elite eldar close combat unit are no match for them.[snapback]320566[/snapback][/quote]
Actually they have a 5+ invul because of Demonic Aura.
Crap, don't smite me mods please.
I'm kinda sorry about this.