Welcome to Librarium Online!
Join our community of 80,000+ members and take part in the number one resource for Warhammer and Warhammer 40K discussion!
Registering gives you full access to take part in discussions, upload pictures, contact other members and search everything!
Hi, this is my first post on the forum, I've been considering collecting wordbearers for a while now.
I was originally considering an assaulty army, but, i couldnt make them fast enough into combat. Rhino rush has been changed by the new rules, and (according to some Vets instore) Infiltrate doesnt work that well. I talked to some people to see what they thought, and the idea of using the new rhino rush (disembark, rapid fire and flamer them) with my WB would work. I'll add a couple of units of Deamonettes/Bloodletters as a counter assault force, and some havocs for anti tank.
The Dark Apostle has been causing me some trouble, seeing as i cant help but over equip him (201pts!!. Im also not sure what role he would play in this army, as its going to be close range shooty.
here's a rough army list that ive made with some help.
The Cohort of Zacharias the Profanity
Dark Apostle (Lord)
Equipment: Cursed Crozius, Close Combat Weapon, Spiky Bits, Daemonic Armour, Daemonic Flight, Daemonic Mutation, Daemonic Resilience, Daemonic Strength, and Furious Charge
Equipment: Close combat Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Daemonic Aura, Daemonic Flight, Daemonic Strength, Aspiring Champion (Power Fist)
4X 8 Chaos Marines
Equipment: Bolter, 2X Flamer, Aspiring Champion (Powerfist, Close combat Weapon, Daemonic Mutation), Rhino APC.
2X 5 Deamonettes
Equipment: Deamonic Talons
Any help with strategies, etc. would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks a Bunch,
Put points costs for all of the units. You can't say how much each upgrade costs, but totals for squads are perfectly acceptable.
On a similar note, this should really be in the army lists section.
Dark Apostle: Nice, but I agree that he is very expensive. Seeing as it is 1500 points it isn't a huge problem, but he's just bulked out with upgrades. For one he doesn't really nedd resilience; he has stature and the invulnerable save from the crosius.
Possessed: Good, but I would have suggested d.talos and a rhino. However you seem to be basing your whole army around speed so the rest of the troops are going to keep theirs. As you said, the list was 1450-1500. You could fit an unupgraded rhino in there (almost) with some stringent upgrade limitations on the aspiring champions.
Troops: What, no marks? Also, there is little point giving the AC a power fist and close combat weapon. Give them a powerfist and bolt pistol. That way they can still fire and get the +1 attack bonus for having two weapons. I would consider one squad having meltaguns or at least plasma guns, as appart from the DP you are seriously lacking in the anti-armour department.
Daemonettes: Lovely, but maybe put them into one squad, maybe drop a couple of them. If they are summoned on wildly different turns they will get shot to pieces one by one. Stick them together to increase their survivability.
Overall not a bad list, but it needs something to take down enemy vehicles. I hope you weren't planning on using daemonettes to do that. That would be a very bad way of thinking, which I found out the hard way.
I'd take out one of your squads to add some type of anti tank unit, such as havocs. I think you should tone your Lord down again because what if he got a couple of lucky lascannon or plasma gun shots thrown his way? all those points thrown down the drain. Just tone him down a little. Other than that it looks like a pretty interesting list, I mean the only tactics that would be best to employ would just getting your possessed and other marines into combat quickly, with some type of tank killing unit holding the line.
Here I am, Rock you like a Hurricane.
<img src='http://www.disabledbobcat.com/lorenz/images/DMENTED.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Ogre Kingdoms 4/1/1
Word Bearers: 2/0/0
Could someone tell me if I'm blind or what couse I can't see that the Dark Apostle have and Daemonic Statue and still everyone here keeps saying that he have :blink: Is it just me or have the other missed something?
In my Heaven there is no God.
Just Maths, Calculates and Logics...
To Dark Apostle:
1) yeah, I see what you mean about the stature... he must have got mixed up
2) Please at least read your post through before you send it
What I did with my Word Bearers was to anti-beef the Apostle (it's so tempting to god-mod your lord, but not doing so gives you so many more options for the rest of your army!!! and he goes in the Rhino with a CC-type marine squad, maybe the Possessed would be good. He is hard to kill (squad cover) plus his attacks and power weapon buff up the kills on an already formidable squad. I say witht he deamonettes to put at least 6 in otherwise they will get mashed. Some people field 12.
And finally, you DEFINATELY need either a Havocs squad or an Obliterator.
I take:1. CC marine squad + apostle in a Rhino
2. Raptors to steer fire away from Rhino
3. A 10-man marine squad with plasma guns for stable firepower
4. 2 obliteraters for blowing stuff up and mowing things down
5. Havocs for tough jobs
All this in 1000 points. I use a refused flank for the fast stuff to charge through, and everything else gets pinned down by heavy fire. In 1500, I bring out a defiler and LOADS of demons... 3 squads of em.
FROM THE BOOK OF THE IMPERIUM:
1. Thou shalt not go on a panty raid in the Adaptus Soritus temple.
2. Thou shalt not flirt with Howling Banshees. They are the enemy.
3. Thou shalt not refer to Battle Sisters as Bolter Biatches
4. Darth Vader isnâ€™t the son of Abaddon
5. Thou shalt not reassemble a Necron into a washing machine
im just starting a word bearers army.
very much assault oriented with hopefully enough firepower to deal with horde armies.
i have at 1500
dark apostle demon prince@166 pts with crozius/stature/flight/strength/mutation/moc
with a retinue of 5 chosen aspiring champions@305pts
moc/demon icon/2 boltpistols/3 plasma pistols/5 powerfists/demonic flight
2x 5man chaos marines led by asp champ@442
2 flamers each/moc
asp champ/power sword/melta bombs/bolt pistol/personal icon
both squads mounted in rhinos withcombi-flamers/demonic possesion/parasitic possesion.
10 upgraded horrors@230<equivalent of 30 heavy bolter shots
1508 pts(i need to check about giving personal icons to the asp champs, as they may not need it in a marked squad?)
a further upgrade would be 2 squads of bikers with 2 flamers each and power sword on the asp champs.