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Yo, I'm a Tau player and know next to nothing about Chaos. I got this bothersome question.
How is Chaos divided? I dont understand how each group is important and whether or not they relate to the gods. For example, is the Black Legion part of Chaos Undivided? Are all of the Emperors Chilren devoted to Slaanesh? Who is devoted to Khorne? Tzeentch (ugly word)? Are there divisions not dedicated to a certain god? If so, can they get any god's special units (Daemonettes, Bloodletters, Unclean One)?
Im just curious how it all relates. I told you that I knew nothing about Chaos.
P.S. Aren't the C'Tan also old Chaos gods? what happens when the outsider awakens........
Right, there are 4 major gods of Chaos, all spawned by an element of human emotion mirrored the warp. Each is the creation of a specific 'bad' eddy in the warp that coalesces to form a chaos god. They fight amongst themselves as rivals mainly, but will unite on occasion to fulfill a certain end. Some worshippers worship a particular chaos god, others worship them all and chaos itself, this is called worshipping 'chaos undivided'. Chaos undivided armies are a patchwork of different daemons and worshippers of both undivided and different particular gods. At the time of the heresy, different traitor legions were seduced by different aspects of chaos.
The gods being;
Khorne, the god of war formed from every murderous impulse. Khorne Daemons are the Bloodthirster, Flesh hounds and Bloodletters . Khorne warriors are known as 'Khorne bezerkers', and they specialise in taking heads to worship khorne. Khorne is patron of the World Eaters traitor legion. Khorne is the arch-enemy of Slanneesh due to their opposing ideals of war and pleasure, and due to a disagreement who would kill the Eldar god Khaine.
Nurgle, god of disease and pestulence formed from the suffering of the ill. Nurgle Daemons are the Great Unclean one, Nurglings and Plaguebearers . Nurgle Marines are known as 'Plague Marines'. Nurgle is the patron of the Death Guard traitor Legion. Nurgle is the arch-enemy of Tzeench, as Nurgle derives its power from despair while Tzeench derives it's power from plotting and underminement.
Tzeench, god of plots and magic, formed from the plotting and magic. Tzeench Daemons are the Lord of Change, Horrors and Flamers. Tzeench Marines are sometimes known as Rubric Marines. Tzeench is the patron of the Thousand Sons traitor legion.
Slaneesh is the god of pleasure and decadence, formed from the Eldar pleasure cults. Slaneesh Daemons are the Keeper of Secrets and the Daemonettes. Slaneesh marines are known as Noise Marines. Slaneesh is the patron of the Emperor's Children traitor legion.
Chaos undivided is as stated the worship of all of the above and chaos itself. It may take warriors from any of the other gods, plus warriors who worship chaos undivided itself. Chaos undivided legions are the Black Legion and the Word Bearers.
For more info;
http://www.criticalhit.co.uk/w40krp/emperor.shtml <-- this one is particularly good.
Oh, and the C'tan are nothing to do with Chaos.
Last edited by Addoran; May 4th, 2005 at 06:21.
WOW! That really helps. No, seriously. It does.
Abaddon leads the Undivided right?
I think that I heard somewhere (I don't remember where unfortunately) that there are nine gods of chaos. Them being Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch (can anyone actually spell that, or pronounce it?), Nurgle, the Outsider, the Nightbringer, the Deceiver, and two others. A friend told me today that he heard about a chaos god called "Molab" or something like that, who may be hiding in the "Black Library" (i also dont know anything about this Black library, could someone tell me?)
Im not entirely sure about all this but Im mostly sure i read it some where. Part of Necron codex maybe. I dunno. Oh well. Go Tau!
Abbadon is Warmaster of Chaos. He leads the Black Legion, but he can call upon all of the traitor legions for his black crusade.
There are 4 Major Gods of Chaos I have already mentioned. There used to be a fifth one Malal (probably whoever told you mispronouned it), but the person who owned the rights left GW and they had to bury it. Malal is no longer part of any official fluff.
Sorry, but whoever told you about the nine is completely incorrect. In no way at all are the C'tan chaotic or daemonic related. The warp is anathema to them.
I see. That all makes sense now. But who are the Human Illuminati? I'll look it up.
One more thing, I do believe it says in the Necron Codex that the Outsider, the third C'Tan, was put to rest by the Laughing God, and he is yet to awaken. they could be realted to Chaos because they are the masters of warp travel, far superior even to the Eldar. Many of their powers realate to teleportation, and they phase out because they teleport away in attempt to stop a total loss. Uhg, all this makes my brain hurt. Thank goodness the orks dont have pskers.....
Thanks for the help Addoran.
Last edited by Shas'O Briguy; May 6th, 2005 at 00:44.
The human Illuminati aren't really around anymore. They where a group of people that where trying to bring the emperor back, but the Inquisition labeled them a chaos cult and eradicated them. Don't worry about the Illuminati citizen, they don't exist. :mad:<---Inquisitorial glare
Anyways the C'Tan are not related to the chaos gods. The Chaos gods are entities that exist in the Warp and are made of Warp energies. The C'Tan are beings that exist in the material universe and made of energies found only in this universe. They're pretty much complete opposites.
Last edited by Edicius; May 6th, 2005 at 00:59.
If the C'tan and the Chaos gods are opposites....then they are related in an antonym kind of way, but I see what ya mean. Chaos, C'tan: separate. Gotcha.
Of course there's no such thing as Illuminati! The only existance is in the Emperor, our god and individual all powerful lord! (glances at metagun wielding Inquisitors) :unsure:
umm not to ***** but in the chaos codex book of tzeentch part it says that tzeentch is the opposite of nurgle because nurgles powers come from death, rot and decay, whereas tzeentchs come from evolution, change and rebirth.
also khorne finds an opposite in tzeentch as well because of his use of sorcery which khorne despises.(with good reason cowardly, sorcerous scum)
all the gods hate each other but with rules, tzeentch hates nurgle more than khorne. Nurgle hates tzeentch more. And Khorne hate slannish more than anyon else and vice versa. Of course the powers the 4 god have may be oppsotie of each other, but they all hate each other and wish to be the top dog.
As apostles yet not as Apostles. As Believers yet not as Believers. As Traitors yet not as Traitors! We are Disciples of Vengeance. Only bowing and praying forgiveness of our God. Only bowing and defeating the enemies of our God. Wielding our Swords in the night and brandishing our Guns during the day. We are Soldiers. The Soldiers of Mala!