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I want to get a daemon for my army, but i want a Daemon Prince and a Blood Thrister. I like both but don't know which one to get.
Could you help me decide.
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That doesn't really help much. You tell us you want both in your army, but then you say you want us to help you choose one.
If you want the one for the better model, I'd choose the daemon prince. The modelling and conversion capabilities are by far better than the thirster, unless you're thinking of getting the forge world one.
If you want combat ability, then I'd choose the 'thirster. Although the daemon prince can be made to have more attacks and he's slower, he's stronger and i've never seen a daemon prince do as well as a thirster - they are just the kings of combat.
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If you want spend the points on him, the 'thister can really kill some stuff. And he's very resilient (most people need 5's to hit, 6's to wound, and he's got a 3+ save). Plus, he doesn't start on the board so probably won't be shot at all (drive a transport with the vessel 12" forward, next turn invite the possession and re-roll it with daemonic chains, then fly 12" forward and charge the crud out of the enemy). But you could get an effective Daemon Prince for almost 150 points cheaper (including the cost of the possessed champion).
I think I would move towards the thirster, just a cool model, that has a few options to get across the board. Not just hoofing it.
In my opinion, a DP can withstand more damage than a Bloodthirster. With Feel No Pain it makes him so much better against AP 3 weapons. But then, your Bloodthirster isn't going to be out in the open very much.
- with Feel No Pain it takes almost all of his army shooting at you to kill him
- if nothing else, it acts as a fire magnet to protect the rest of your troops
- is probably the best model GW has put out for 40k
- it's cheap for what you get (both in points and money)
- it can be made in so many different ways to suit different armies.
- can be unstopable against certain armies. Necrons, without a C'tan, will be unable to stop it
- Faster than the DP
- Doesn't get shot at, because it pops out and attacks
- Can't be instant-killed (so better against Tau)
- Fits more in with fluff. DPs are supposed to be very very rare, while there are quite a few Bloodthirsters
- You'll be different from most Khorne lists if you take him in 1500pts, as most use the DP
- More effective when dueling against other ICs
I started off using a DP all the time, but now I have started using a Bloodthirster. The resilience of the DP and the fact that they're supposed to be so rare turned me off them. I think it's a better gaming experience using a Bloodthirster over a DP.
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You can get a cheaper figure that is still useful for a lot less points with a demon prince and you can avoid instakills but getting the blasphemous rune. For the same points as a bloodthirster you could have two reasonable lieutenants and a retinue which would enable you to soak even more fire. My God...you could have two lietenants, 8 chaos hounds, and some points left over for fun stuff. You could stick them all in a rhino and just go and rip things up. If your lieutenants have demon weapons or power weapons they could be quite unpleaasant. Even if they only have combi-melta's they are still going to be a nuisance. If they get a demon mark they could wreck someones day.
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Yeah but you blow up the rhino and everyone runs a risk at getting hurt. Where as a BT gets to possess someone. And yes you can kill that guy, but even though hes not as stable as he could be, he comes on to the board anyways. You get to use it one way or the other.
That's true, and the guy with the BT inside him has the BT's strength which is useful all by itself. For the same cost as the BT you could have one Chaos Lord In terminator armour with the dark blade and demonic mutation and a bolt pistol and the mark of Khorne getting 7 attacks a round in HtH and a Chaos Lietenant in terminator armour and the mark of Khorne getting 6 attacks a round...and you can teleport them in or do a rhino rush in a landraider if you are worried about them. Also you can put them both with a squad and let the squad soak up damage until they get into hand to hand combat, also you can give them veteran skills.Originally Posted by Dominuce25
Although even if this is all true, bloodthirsters are a cool model, they chew up vehicles, aand they are fearsome in HtH.
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Actually Necrons can kill anybody. If a gauss weapon rolls a 6 to wound then it wounds regardless of Toughness.Originally Posted by Tones
True anything will die under enough shots. Anyways, they still have a 5+ inv. But you get up close and personal, good bye necrons good luck trying to get back up.