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I was thinking about how to make a perfect heavy support squad yet one that would be able to support itself in close combat. I was thinking of maybe making a 12 man squad. With a lascannon, a plasma gun, 5 bolters, 4 ccw and bolt pistols and a champ with a power fist and bolt pistol. This would mean that i would put the 5 guys with close combat weapons at the front to take any assautling unit. Yet the guys at the back would be able to hurt the rest of the stuff from range combat. I was planing of making 2 of these 12 man squads and infiltrating them into the best cover were they would just sit and take shots for the rest of the game. What do u think? Also i might swap around the power fist for a power weapon just to have the initiative advantige, so i can strike first. What you think?
"Iron within, iron without."
Let's see. So far I have found 4 illegal things about your pefect squad:
1: Cant have some models with pistols and CCWs and some with bolters and CCW
2: Cant keep part of the squad back to stay out of combat, as it breaks unit coherency
3: Cant shoot if the squad is in CC
4: Cant infilitrate 2 members of a squad...
Seriously dude, do you even own the codex? :confused:
Actually the first thing he can do, but mixed sqauds are not effectieve for their price.
Sorry dude but it's back to the drawingboard for you.
@ Eldradir: I don't know for point 1, but 2, 3 and 4 is just you that didn't read it all trough. With "stay back" he means that he puts them behind the CC dudes (and not, like, 8" behind them). 3: He doesn't imply that he's going to do that. 4: he wants to infiltrate 2 squads of 12 men each. Not 2 men.
But like Dreachon said, it's just a waste of points. Go CC or Shooty, not both.
Better to make 2 shooty and 2 cc squads instead of 2 mixed squads.
My bad. Something about dense paragraphs...
It's a bad idea Purifier. It's always better to go with specialized squads, rather than one big squad that can do it all. The reason being, if you were to have some of your models armed with bolters, and some with pistols, no matter what you did, some models wouldn't be earning their full keep each round. If you fire, the pistol models can't reach out to 24". If you assault, the bolter models don't get the +1 attack, nor the "free" shot when going in.
A better idea is to split them into two units - one with CCW/Pistols, the other with heavy weapons + Bolters. Deploy them so the CCW unit is in front. They don't block line of fire, but will intercept any chargers coming in, or can charge on their own.
the reason for this was because, my infiltrating squads with heavy weapons never survive when they get charged. So i thought made if i had more attacks at the front with guys with ccw and bpistol and, with the basic 2" attacks from firing guys, and the champ i would be able to hold my own ground.
Well i dont know. The thing is that i rearly charge myself. Unless its with my dreadnought. Because im iron warriors i wish to keep all my heavy weapons for as long as possible.
"Iron within, iron without."