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well i am thinking of starting thousand sons but have one question that decides weather iam or not.
if i start play tzeentch not thousand sons can i use regular chaos marines insted of using TS ones if i give them the mar of tzeentch.
oh and can i use a different color scheme
Last edited by kill'em_all; November 28th, 2005 at 23:06.
Yes, you can use regular chaos or space marines for converting to T.S. models.
You can use any color scheme you want. If you are concerned with fluff, then I'd suggest finding colors that compliment the blue and gold traditional color scheme. Also, when you play at tournaments, people sometimes look at your models funny, if they don't resemble in some way the color scheme of your army.
what would be the best way to go about converting them into looking more like tzeentch
well can you play tzeentch i mean having the entire thing marked like thousand sons but not calling them thousand sons.
Last edited by kill'em_all; November 29th, 2005 at 00:12.
You can always use green stuff to make the cloth portion of the T.S. (thousand sons) look. Of course, I'm not sure how much experience you have w/ green stuff. Also, you can purchase T.S. heads off of ebay and simply glue them to your existing models.Originally Posted by kill'em_allYou can call them whatever you want, if you are simply looking for fluff. If you're asking about the Thousand Sons requirements, read the Tzeentch section of the codex. In short, every troop-based model must have the mark of Tzeentch, you can only use Tzeentch daemons, and vehicles can only be dedicated to Tzeentch. If you want to use models other than Tzeentch as well, then look under the Black Legion section of the codex. B.L. allows the use of multiple marks and is a good army for people just getting started in chaos.Originally Posted by kill'em_all
ok can do i have to use 1000 son heads or can i use regular heads and give them the mark.
i do not real like the 1000 son models but i like tzeentch and the rules of giving them his mark.
Well, you can, but it might be quite difficult to justify to some people, because the rules mechanics of the mark of tzeentch are set up to conform with the unique circumstances of the thousand sons. Many people have tried to write alternative fluff, with occasional success, but generally it doesn't come out very well.. Tzeentch is an elitist god, he recruits psykers and powerful figures, not entire chapters with the rank and file (the thousand sons made the cut because they were mostly psychic anyway,) and no living basic marine has two wounds.. It just doesn't fit the profile.
Tournamentwise, unless you need to have fluff, I can't see any problems. However, bear in mind that you might come under criticism from some players, namely, for not playing an army which is recognisable for what it is, and for bending what has been laid down in the fluff.
Not saying you shouldn't do it, you certainly can, just preparing you for the fact that some people won't like it.
My advise would be to do it, but to make it obvious they aren't normal marines. If they've (somehow) been rubriced, paint glowing scars in their armour, or have their eyes bright colours. Otherwise, what about an army of necromantically raised undead marines commanded by Tzeentch sorcerors (easy to build with a few undead parts.) I think it would really help your case for WYSIWIG if they didn't just look like normal marines.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; November 29th, 2005 at 21:57.
well their is where i get lucky the people i play aginst are open to anything the only problem will be is convincing the guy that runs the legue but i figure he will say that as long as my opponents agree to it that he wont have a problem with it.
i do want to make them look different are their any other idea on how to do this?
As long as the people know what you are playing and the wargear of the models are WYSIWYG, there is no problem.
You can call them whatever you choose, as long as it's not a name allready used-like Iron Warriors etc.
When modelling I think Mantis's undead idea is great, try to avoid having models that look Ã¼berfast and so on.
As someone once said "It's your hobby"
Good Luck and do not worry.