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Must I use the model carrying the stupid looking stick with a circle on it?
Or is their leeway in modeling a chaos marine carrying an icon?
For instance can I glue a trophy pole with a standard on it and some vague latin/ or that stupid looking pole to the chaos marines backpack so as to leave both hands free to carry the weapons of choice?
What constitutes a personal icon when it comes to modelling?
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All the codex says is that the icon has to be represented on the model. If you modelled the figure carrying a wicker basket full of heads covered in runes and called it an Icon, I wouldn't complain but that's me.
I don't think you need to have your icon be specifically that round thing on the pole. Just something that stands out from the other squad members and can be pointed to as the icon. So, I'd say something fairly large and not just say something hanging on the models belt. I don't think there's a problem with modelling it attatched to the figure's backpack though, or whatever. It's not like fantasy, you don't have to give up a weapon option to wield it, so I think you've got a fair amount of leeway.
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a "Personal icon" can be just about anything, in fact it's not even something that must be represented seperately on the model, but it must be purchased from the armory for your characters. you can say something like the chaos Icon on his sholder is a personal icon, or GS one onto a powerfist for a personal Icon.
For the iuco bearer that you get a free icon for, you can use just about anything you want to make it, so long as it's identifiable. not onlyt that, but even if you make him holding the ico up with both arms, he's still counted as being equiped exactly the same it won't have any effect on his abbilty to use any of his equiptment, ie he still counted as having either a bolter, or a bolt pistol and CCW.
I happend to get a whole bung of extra banners when I bought my skaven, and it was just a matter of chopping of the skaven iconography, and making the banner poll fit in his hand nicely. So I now have banners for all of my squads, and I can also count them as being icons for deamon summoning if need be.
before I had the banners, I made a flag poll, and painted a flag for my old worldeaters army on a piece of paper. Of cource at the time i didn't have any deamons, but i'm sure that that could be used as an icon without much squabble.
Originally Posted by Andusciassus
Personally, I used trophy poles..
You get one in the CSM box and you also get many possibilities on the chaos vehicle sprue as well. They fit easily onto a backpack without impeding the models ability to carry weapons, and noone's ever complained about them (most just seem to be pleased I actually modelled the icons in the first place.) If anyone did, I'd claim the skulls on the pole are the victims the bearer has saccrificed to slannesh recently in order to gain the favour and services of the daemons.
I've modeled an "impurityseal" on my Iconbearers shoulder. It's a scroll of some kind, covered with runes. I don't see the Thousand Sons as the flagwavering kind.
I always show the opponent before and I've had no problem even though it's not a gigantic wheel or a flag.