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On page 22 of the Chaos Codex it states :
"Chaos Lord is a term applied to a commander who is largely a space marine....as a guideline a chaos lord with more than 50 points in demonic abilities can claim to be a demon prince and should be modelled accordingly."
Now lets say my friend chooses not to give his prince stature, but gives him 55 points of gifts. Does he have to use the big hulking model for his prince, or can he use say a specially painted terminator (if the prince had terminator armor)?
No but he must look daemonic. Stature is the only upgrade that requests the model be 10' to scale.
As long as he has the Gifts modelled onto him he's fine. Not all gifts can be modelled though.
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you can make a deamon prince out of just about any model, besides tanks but like BiD stated you have to make at least some of the special abilities visual, you can even mix and match pieces from other deamon models, like khorn demons, the changer of ways and so forth. The limits of making a price, or chaos lord are pretty much endless, but you have to make them look demonyness for them to be considered demon princes
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Personally i think it's cheaper to go out and buy the prince instead of converting it, but converting one will give you that cool feeling of "i converted my own daemon prince."
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Sure, the demon prince model is groovy, but only for a demon prince with stature. For regular sized demon princes you have to convert a model.
Ok, so what does a non statured demon prince look like? You just take the termy body and demon head it up? Maybe slice on the arms of a demon?
And how would you model something like, that gift that makes it so you can't be instantly killed even if something is double your Toughness?
Forgive my blanket ignorance of Chaos special rules.
Ahhh, the age old question, how do you make a Chaos Lord?
If you have no or very few extreme Daemonic gifts, simple - just take the model that best fits your needs, and paint it. If you want it mutated and knarly, bung on a few bits and bobs. If you want one that truly represents your guy, then be prepared for days and weeks filing, gluing and fiddling with dozens of different models, sprues and stuff until you have a viable piece.
I have found that Chaos forces are definitely the best armies for people that like the whole "care and attention" thing. Sure, you can bung on a Daemon Prince, or Choas Lord model and no-one will blink, but when someone sees a carefully sculpted and converted Chaos Lord on the field, they just start thinking "Uh-oh, this guys gonna be tough, cos who would go to the effort of making all those minute freakisisations just for show?"
So, if you want impact, if you want to strike fear, if you wanna cause panic on the battlefield, I would suggest picking up the GW catalogue and looking through all the models with a magnifying glass (try the webstore for individual sprues) and see what bits and bobs you want on your Lord. Grey Knights and Inquisitors have certain imposing look (but a fair dod of work to polish off those imperial symbols), Ork bodies and weapons are a good starting point for a basis for your Khorne Lords, there's some nice Eldar and Dark Eldar models that would be good as a basis for yer sorcerer types, and there's loads more to boot in the fantasy section. You could even grab some modelling putty or green stuff and make your own, even going so far as to cast it in metal.
So, do you want a kick ass individual Lord, or do you want Kharn the Betrayer? It's up to you. Chaos is for life, not just for Thursday nights...
(Oh yeah, to model certain things like Invulnerablility saves and general toughness, just make him/her a bit more 'bulgy' around the torso and upper arm area - if it's a Power Armour guy, try terminator arms or just mounting normal arms a millimetre further from the torso or so. Some things can be tough to model and some don't need or can't be modelled - Remember Evil Spock? He was just Mr Spock with a goatee. Remember when Willow went all kick ass? She just died her hair darker and had a touch of veininess around the face. Subtlety can be rewarding too.)
Well put, Dogma. I'd just like to throw this in: make it clear to your opponent that the model IS in fact a daemon prince. Some people might mistake a slightly mutated termy for an Aspiring Champion, and that would butcher your sportsmanship at a tournament.