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im wondering which out of the four Chaos icons is the best for ranged killing?
i atm have 3700pt chaos undivided (first army) and i want to start a new part of my army.
Shaleesh hands down you, can make a fluffy killy winy army easy lol...
If you want ranged chaos just go for the iron warriors man
Best shooting? well, that's a matter of perspective, playstyle and army composition.
But I would have to say, that with my playstyle, Iron warriors would be the most devestating out of all of them, for a pure sit back and shoot potential.
9 obliterators, 4 squads of havocs with tank hunters would just about annihilate anything that had the misfortune of getting in your LOS. Top that off with the potential for 6 shooty CSM squads and WOW. If I had the money, I would consider doing this myself.
haha, oops. I totally misread the original post. IW are of course, undivided, which you already have. If you're not looking into diversifying your undivided army, then
of the four cult armies I would have to agree with caluin on all counts for the cults(rather than write down what he said almost word for word) which would probably send im in to cranky-mod status
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WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!
Of the four chaos powers its probably Slaanesh, but Tzeentch is also very shooty with thier 'Slow and Purposeful' special rule, although they lack special weapons, the sheer amount of ranged bolter fire mixed with psychic weapons (Blasted standard, Bolt of change, Inferno bolts etc) and Rubric Terminators can make for an incredible amount of shooty. Tzeentch also have a durabilty to outshoot many armies, while alot of Slaanesh is still combat orientated, such as warp scream, combat drugs, Daemonettes etc.
Last edited by The vampire Lestat; July 22nd, 2006 at 11:15.
thanks guys, ill look into slaenish and iron warriors.
You have to watch out with slaanesh. While they may be good at shooting, they're by no means a shooty army.Originally Posted by TheEndIsNear
The marines are expensive for what they are, essentially paying 10points for a slightly better storm bolter.
Any proper shooty army like Tau or the Guard will take you down really badly with Slaanesh.
Don't get me wrong, Slaanesh IS a damn good option, but you need balance with it. All that shooting is a tragic waste of thier warp scream too.
If you want proper advice, listen to what the Yak said. (But blastmasters are incredibly cool).
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
id say iron warriors with 9 obliterators wins the shooty contest.
leave the moderating to the moderators
if pro is the opposite of con, does that mean progress is the opposite of congress?
Out of the four Chaos Powers, I would say Nurgle has the best shooting prowess. Their troops are comparitively cheap to Tzeentch and Slaanesh, can have special weaponry in their squads, have a strong measure of survivability, and still retain a strong close combat edge with their True Grit. The only downside is the lack of heavy weaponry, but with creative use of Plasmas, Meltas and tanks, this shouldn't be much of an issue. After all, Tzeentch can make due without Autocannons and Heavy Bolters.
Tzeentch pulls up a close second, due to the lack of special weaponry and low model count. Slow and Purposeful helps, as does the Bolts of Change, but I find the low model count to be a hinderance. I also find myself wishing more often than not that I could pick different targets with my BoC and not waste my bolter fire on a tank.
Slaanesh pulls up third for me, since they don't function well as a shooty army. Sonic Blasters are nice, and Blastmasters are beautiful, but on their own they won't win you any games. Good Slaanesh armies balance that two evenly.
Khorne is of course not even considered in this.
If you don't care about Chaos Cult specific armies, then Iron Warriors will win hands down. Obliterators are by far one of the best models in our Codex, and being able to take three units of them borders on being broken. Throw in the fact you can then take up to four Heavy Support, which can be either Havocs or Ordnance weapons, and you have a recipe for cheesy shootiness in a box.