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I have not yet play a single game of 40k before but after reading the CSM Codex and watching a few small battle, i'm quite interested to start one myself. I've read through the codex and decided to collect a small Nurgle force. I like them cos they're gifted with extra toughness to make their Plague Marines and Plaguebearers more resilient. So away to ebay and bought myself some old/rare plastic Plague marines, a old death guard champion w/powerfist, 2 new blisters of metal plague marines and a Plague Banner, just enough to make 3 squads. I was quite happy and deciding what to buy next but...
But there's a big problem after i've read one chapter from "Storm of Iron", I was some how drawn to Iron warrior side. I began to like them more because of their special ability, a heavy firepower specialists army. Well the downside of them is that they cant field daemon( which i dont like them too) and do not have access to the bonuses of Marked units and wargear. BUt overall they've the ability to field many units of Obliterators and their access to corrupted Basilisks and Vindicator tanks ( Yesssssss!! ).
NOw i'm basically stuck with this 2 legions and i'm the undecided type of person.I know you guys will ask me to choose which model/term i like most but seriously said i like them both (dont ask me to buy both pls!).. So which legion should i play with, NUrgle or Iron warrior? Someone help me pleasssssse!!!
Iron Warriors will perform best, and if you're a beginner they will be more forgiving.
Surely you can fix up your plague marines to become IW.
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I would base it on which ones do you want to paint more? Nurgle can look sweeeet but so can IW. You'll spend most of your time assembling and painting so you should do an army you like to paint. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but IW does win tourneys here and there more often then any other Chaos army that I've seen. I personally love the IW color scheme, fluff and obliterators. I love painting oblits (but I wish I could hire someone to assemble the bastages!)
I have seen some sweet Nurgle at my bunker. This one guy assembles them then adds sand and stuff in patches all over the models and tanks. Once primed and painted the "rough spots" look all disease infested... It's really cool. I must of sat there for 15 minutes looking at all of his models.
Ragnar, you should know that the two armies play differently. I think that both armies are great for beginners. Nurgle armies are as hard as a coffin nail, and just as rusty. IW will dish out enough firepower to make grown men cry. It all depends on which you want to model, and whether you like to play offensively or defensively.
Iron Warriors are more shooting oriented, but can still have some powerful close combat units.
Death Guard can't tank heavy weapons in their infantry squads, but get bonuses like extra toughness which really comes in handy. Keep in mind they can still take special weapons like plasma and melta, which are great weapons btw. They tend to be more close combat oriented, but can still have some "shooty" aspects.
Iron Warriors are a more defensive style army, while Death Guard are more offensive.
Looks are a personal preference, really. IMHO they both look cool. If I were you, I'd go Death Guard. But I'm not you.
I faced a similar conundrum when I was leaving IG and LatD. Frankly you can have both. Black Legion can have both shooty elements and plague marines. You can't get vindicators or basilisks but that doesn't seem to be a horrible loss (to me). If it's just the shootiness that you're attracted to, take a look at Vanilla Chaos.
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Why not do a hybrid black legion army.
Use nurgle marines and oblits and such, play them as a IW variant(yea, I know BL doesn't get the same toys that the IW gets) but build the army so you can switch hit.
Paint your BL marines as IW(or black) and use Nurgle marines as troops as well.
You'll want Oblits anyways so as you start to collect them, you can decide whether you WANT to go BL, IW, or DG. See what works best for you, what units you like and then go for it!
Just my thoughts.
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I tell every player who's considering this type of difficulty the same thing: Try each army for a month and see which one works better. D.G. is a little monotonous when compared the I.W., but at the same time, it's much more forgiving (despite what Fuard maintains). The 5T fixes so many problems. If you choose I.W., then you need to be prepared for people calling it a 'cheese' army. It doesn't matter if it is or isn't cheese, I.W. will still get the label, simply because people don't like playing against them.
As a D.G. player I can tell you that they do after a while get a little monotonous, but then again, most cult armies have this problem. As some people have said before, try B.L.. They'll allow you to change your army when you grow tired of it, and utilize all of the Chaos arsonal.
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The aforementioned black legion can sort of solve your problems, if you're willing to compromise. I'm (or have been, technically I'm out of the loop) a bit of a fluff nut, so that is what made me chose my army (Iron Warriors). Find and read the index astartes articles of both Deathguard and IW, and look for what fits your personality (yeah, I take this **** way too seriously). I started off with a Night Lords army (pre-index astartes, and with the old CSM codex) to which Khornate and a few Nurgloid units were added for diversity and fun. Then, I read the IW I:A article, and I was hooked. All units that could fit into an IW army were repainted; the rest went on to form a WE army. I even un-converted a fair few models specifically for this purpose even though they looked bloody awesome.
In game terms: Deathguard are tougher, but are likely to field fewer models. They're more of a close combat / short range shooty army. Iron Warriors on the other hand are good for long range shooty goodness, but remember you don't have to abide by this; we might not get daemons but that doesn't mean we can't tool our chaos marines up for close combat. Technically you could forego ordnance and all that and just take 4 dreadnoughts with dual close combat weapons. Different, and maybe not the most effective, but should be fun.
Okay, I was supposed to be unbiased but I don't actually play Deathguard so meh. The bottom line: fluff matters.
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