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hi, as the title says i hate the thousand son models but i really want to make a thousand son army because im in the process of reading chaos child.
now i was thinking about using the standard chaos marine box set and painting them in the pre heresy colours, ie red with which on the out side of the shoulder pads, although im painting them pre heresy colours, the army is going to be set after the battle on terra but before the rubric spell.
any advice would be apprecialted
Sounds very much like a Black legion army with MoCU would fill your needs.
You could have a Tzeentchian Hq and even a squad of possessed to fill your psychic needs - also to represented the mutation which the rubric stemmed.
Tzeentch daemons are also good fair.
Use a lord of change.
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
nah dude use the thousand sons rules if you like them just use the standard csm models so long as it's wysisyg and they have the colour scheme and markings associated with them then there is no problem
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:cry: ...but....they are so beautiful.?...
I must, however, respect your view on them, and if you think they are ugly then they are ugly. So use other models.
Now comes the tricky part.
If you want to use the rules for models bearing the Mark of Tzeentch and hence the Rubric-rules, it is a good idea to make sure your opponent knows this before you start to play. But other then that, there is nothing that stops you from using whatever (wysiwyg) models you wish. It could be a good thing to make sure your Champs looks like the sorcerers they are.
If you want to play them "non-rubricified", just use the Black Legion generic CSM-list. It could be a good thing to have some Sorcerer heavy theeme, but other then that you just do what you please.
It seems like if you are going for a in-heresy list you could make an unmarked army. No daemons but make sure you have quite a few sorcerers. Give your HQs the Sorcerer ability and use three units of Chosen with one sorcerer in each.
Since the Defiler came along much later you should also try to avoid them in your army for "fluffness" sake... But since it's our army - you just go ahead and do what you like, and I wish you the best of luck with your army.
...they are not ugly:cry:
For an in-heresy Thousand Sons I go with Andusciassus on this one. Use a standard CSM list with lots of Posessed/Chosen Sorcerers to represent the Thousand Sons 1st Company (which was, correct me if I'm wrong, a Sorcerer-only company - later wiped out by the Space Wolves?).
Stay away from Obliterators and Defilers. Raptors are obviously also a no-no. Remember that the then-Thousand Sons were still reasonably loyal to the Emperor, so I would personally not use any Daemons either.
Daemonic Abilities would be okay. Though mutations (which the Thousand Sons abhored), you could simply count them as "spells" or whatever. Daemonic Strength? Glowing fists. Daemonic Armour? Psychic shield. And so on.
At least that's how I would do In-Heresy Thousand Sons (and in fact, will probably do!). :shifty:
I'm not to sure about this. There were Raptors (or rather what would become Raptors) in all the Legions before and during the Heresy. It was not until afterwards they gathered into one Cult. The Raptor Cult.Originally Posted by Ravendove
I might be wrong as I'm far from the Master of Fluffarians, check it out with them first...How right you are, thanks for lending me your shoulder.Originally Posted by Ravendove
I am not a master fluffer either... wait , what did I just say?
anyhow, I'm not completely familiar with the type of "gifts" that tzeench was bestowing on the legion, but if this is before the ruberic spell, why not start giving them wierd mutations and abnormalities to represent just why they were turned into what they became?
Just a thought.
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Basicly the Thousand Sons had lots of sorcerors then lots of mutants, then lots of rubric. If they're set after the battle of terra then the guys would be fully turned to chaos and would start to show mutations. So maybe a mixture of posessed and sorcerors.
They could probably have a lot of chaos goodies, but I don't think that the defiler was created until after the rubric spell.
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