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In your opinion what has worked better for you a pure cult army or say a black legion amy?
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Pure cults can offer some benefits, like chosen numbers, but they limit a lot.
I'd have to say Black Legion would be more effective, overall. Because they have as much selection as the cults, but a lot more. For instance, a pure world eaters cult can't have havocs, raptors, or oblits. Whereas, a Black Legion army can have a Khrone boss, so 'zerkers count as troops, but you can still field all the good stuff. You can do that with almost every cult.
Overall a cult army is uber-fluffy, but Black Legion with strong influence can be alot more powerful
just my 2 cents
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Pure cult armies are played mostly by enthusiasts and modelers as you get surprisingly little benefit from playing one. If you're just a player then BL would be a smarter move.
Undivided armies fall into their own category. Instead of elite units, you get extra unit choices, special veteran skills and/or some FOC alterations. If you want to play a fluffy army but don't want the extreme of a cultist one then try Undivided. That is what worked for me--Night Lords have cool fluff, a rock-hard vet. skill and lots of really cool Raptors. I feel spoiled...:yes:
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I arrived at the darkside of chaos through the Death Guard army. It's always proven itself quite adept on the table. Recently, I've switched to Black Legion. Basically, I kept my Death Guard build, but swapped one plague marine squad for 3 oblits and then changed out my heavies entirely for 2 squads of 8 havocs w/ autocannon & tank hunter. In essence, it's a Death Guard 'cousin' army, but with the benifits of B.L. After playing it now for a month, it performs above and beyond my Death Guard counterpart. Even without the free A.C., the benefit of oblits and heavy weapons for havoc squads makes up for it 2 fold (and then some).
Any cult army can be reconfigured to a B.L.build in a very similiar way as I have indicated above. W.E., especially, benefits from it. You can create a very effective cult army (for the most part), but in the end, it's often better simply to play B.L. with a heavy focus on the god of your choice and his models, and then substitute in those elements that are restricted from the cult armies.
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I started off playing a cult, Slaanesh to be specific, and I thought it was great at first but overtime you realize that BL has more potential. I still love to play cult lists in small point games, but once you get up there in value they lose their potency.
I'd say give it a try like garret said above... change it to a BL army with an emphasis on the god of your choice. I did that, and then I went one step further and now I play Iron Warriors. In the end, variety is the spice of life and with Chaos you can keep yourself entertained with different armies for a long, long time.
I'm just getting into Chaos, but I can see how any Black Legion army would make a better Cult army. Seriously, it's almost a shame GW didn't see this loophole. That's the problem with BL being the Ultramarines of Chaos. All focus is on them, so they must get the best options so you don't lose your fanbase, so therefore the Cult Legions are used less. A vicious cycle. If they would only give Cult legions a few more perks...
I hear that they might expand our four god sections into separate codices, or at least expand upon them. I honestly think that a lot of the lists we have are deserving of extra attention or codices upgrades, like Dark Angels, Blood Angels, etc. They each, imo, have much more depth and special abilities than our "chapters."
Stupid space marines.
I'm also building an army of chaos. I'm wanting to choose alternate colors, so I can use as the Black Legion or as any other specific undivied army (like word beares, alpha legion... )
what you think ?
It's not a loophole. In the right circumstance, the cult armies are better than B.L. (this goes for most of the chaos armies). Whereas the cult armies have reduced cost for A.C's and bonuses to their summoning roles, B.L's only benefit is that they can take anything they want. I say 'only,' but it's a pretty darn good benefit.
But not all the focus is on B.L.. Most opponents don't mind playing against them; it's Iron Warriors that people complain about being cheese, not B.L. Furthermore, armies like the Alpha Legion are actually better (because they are cheaper) in one of the most important elements to chaos mechanics, and that is infiltrate. If a player doesn't care about Marks, god-specific daemon weapons, & daemon packs, then A.L. is far superior to B.L. Of course, some may say that every chaos army is better than B.L. w/ respect to their speciality, and this is true; it's just that infiltration is A.L's specialty, but it's prevalent throughout every chaos army w/ the exception of W.E. & T.S.. Since infiltration is so good, this makes A.L. a very, very solid army.
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I play almost all cults as well as Black Legion, so I can say from experience.
My first Undivided army is very balanced, and as such is powerful as it can deal with anything. However, it will lose to a focused army quite easily. A balanced force is only powerful if the opponent is unable to create an opening. The opening depends on the opposing army. If I face WE, I will be forced to try to shoot them down before I charge into combat en mass. If I am facing IW, I will have to get in quick (most IW lack CC, which is stupid).
A cult army needs a strong focus to function properly, unlike BL. This does not mean that cult armies require more strategy or otherwise. It is just a difference in army composition.
Personally, I love my undivided army for its flexibility and the fact that I have a few sick combos in there. But I would not say that it works better than cult armies, as my TS and WE are also quite good.
So, it really depends on what you mean by "worked better".
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