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    Daemon Prince Base Size

    I am modelling some Daemon princes for a friend of mine and was wonding what size bases people tend to use. I know you have the option to take the medium base or the monsterous creature base. I am just wondering which one is better. As a tyranid player I use monsterous creatures frequently and know that having their large base often makes it difficult to get them into hand to hand with a unit that has arleady been assaulted. Is there any advantage of using a larger base? Other than it makes the physical act of positioning the models in the assault easier. thanks.


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    Typically, players use a 40mm base for statured princes. Larger bases have advantages and disadvantages (as you likely know). In fact, the pros and cons stem from the same basic idea, namely, that larger bases enable more enemy models to surround your statured prince. This can be a good thing, if your prince is likely to win combat, as it allows his inflicted wounds to be taken on more enemy models, and thus, you aren't left with surplus wounds with no enemy models in range of taking them. However, if your prince is engaging, let's say, a unit of genestealers, then it's better to have your prince on a smaller base, as the stealers will undoubtedly have the upper hand in c.c.. Thus, you want to minimize the potential wounds brought on by the genestealers.

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    Also keep in mind that a statured prince is required to use the larger base,the kind that comes with termies, statured prince model, etc. no smaller. BUT you can put him on a bigger base(like the dreadnaught base) if you like. You can always go larger, but never smaller for base size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit View Post
    Typically, players use a 40mm base for statured princes. Larger bases have advantages and disadvantages (as you likely know). In fact, the pros and cons stem from the same basic idea, namely, that larger bases enable more enemy models to surround your statured prince. This can be a good thing, if your prince is likely to win combat, as it allows his inflicted wounds to be taken on more enemy models, and thus, you aren't left with surplus wounds with no enemy models in range of taking them. However, if your prince is engaging, let's say, a unit of genestealers, then it's better to have your prince on a smaller base, as the stealers will undoubtedly have the upper hand in c.c.. Thus, you want to minimize the potential wounds brought on by the genestealers.

    Hope this helps.
    and remember that this is only after the first round of combat or if the prince is charged. either way by that time you generally don't want the enemy to be able to mob up on you like that.

    one other good thing about larger bases though is that it is more difficult to fully cover tha bases with a blast template making able to avoid more incomming fire because half the time he may be a partial! it's a good way to keep your troops from being to packed in.
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    Just chucking some numbers in:

    The big base (terminators, Tyranid Warriors, NEcron wraiths) = 40mm bases.

    Monster bases (Carnifexes, Greater Daemons, Dreadnought) = 60mm bases.

    Your daemon prince at LEAST has to be 40mm.

    .. i guess this is subject to change in the new codex though...
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    So my question is still what do you do, and why? I would just like to get some opinions. thanks again.

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    Hey,

    Quote Originally Posted by nichodemus10 View Post
    So my question is still what do you do, and why?
    And, everyone's answer is, "Don't use a base that's too small because it's cheating."

    So, that just leaves 'bigger' bases and 'just right' bases.

    Just Right, by GW standards, means:

    GW Online : Warhammer : Base Size And Unit Strength

    I would just like to get some opinions
    Loafus already gave a good reason to consider a larger base.

    AFAIK, it's the *only* good reason to do so.

    Virtually everyone else is content to simply base their DP on a DP base.

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    So... a 150mm base so that you can only ever be "partially covered" by blast templetes?

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    Jeepers,,..

    just put the model on a base which suits it the best. You don't want a huge model on a tiny base or a tiny model on a huge base.

    To be honest, anyone who actively uses base size as tactics and as a method of winning really shouldn't be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karmoon View Post
    Jeepers,,..

    just put the model on a base which suits it the best. You don't want a huge model on a tiny base or a tiny model on a huge base.

    To be honest, anyone who actively uses base size as tactics and as a method of winning really shouldn't be taken seriously.
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