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Well, I've tried to search the forum, found some good info and advice, but not an answer to my questions.
I'm making a Traitor Guard army using the IG list. I want to use Chem Inhalers and Conscripts, Independant Commisars, Close Order Drills, and Veterans for my Doctrines.
My main question is since the Chem Inhalers entry is pretty vauge on which units can/must buy Chem-Inhalers; all it specifies is "units". The Special Equipment entry says that all units that can take it, must. Which are these units? Is it safe for me to assume that its every unit? Consripts, Ogryns, Ratlings? Does each Command Squad also have to purchase them? What about Independant Commissars; Since 3 count as one Elite choise, do the 3 buy them once for all of them, or separatly, or do they take them at all?
I do not have my codex on hand but on the page that describes what doctrines are it also describes what units are able to be effected by doctrines, it should be two pages prior to the page that describes the special equipment.
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It was FAQ'd to mean Guard Infantry only. By RAW, you have to buy it for tanks and the like.
If you think Mathammer doesn't work and dice cannot be predicted, there's a whole field of mathematics called probability that would like to disagree.
"Doctrines are spread across four broad categories: restricted troops, alternate regimental organizations, skills and drills, and special equipment"
Rought riders entry is just there to mention special cases like cyber enchancement where it can be given to either guard infantry OR/AND rought riders.
Also the only way commissars can get access to anything that is marked "guard infantry" is by being an adviser in a command squad or platoon command squad.
Sad to see chem-inhalers are hardly used. Good piece of equipment, but underated, and underused.
I wouldnt go that far, I think its just that everyone takes Iron Discipline rather than specifically not taking Chem-Inhalers.
After all, if you dont like the fluff, you can always make something different up and say "counts as".
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Thats the best part about doctrines and one reason why they have only increased my love for the IG.
3 possible explanations for chem inhalers unmodified leadership:
- mind control device that somehow inhibits or restricts fear within the human brain
- liquid courage: russians use to be issued vodka in their ranks, why wouldn't the valhallans consider this?
- space marine splicing - illegal splicing of small amount of super soldier technology into the guardsmen of this planet/regiment
Last edited by Thorsmitersaw; December 4th, 2007 at 23:47.
My own idea for doing 'counts-as' was to have my Guard wear tinted visors so it's hard to see blood, plus give them soundproof helmets to prevent from seeing or hearing what is happening to the next guy over. Occasionally they'll still notice the carnage, which is why they fail morale tests. "A small mind is easily filled with faith"!
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard