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Right sort of leaving off from my previous thread about a mechanised guard army I recently got my hands on some Elysian grav chutes and head pieces (impulse buy), can the drop troop doctrine work well with mechanised? I sort of have this in mind:
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I also like how he has used some WW2 kits for chimeras.
I don't think that it will work because Mechanised states that "all Guard Infantry" must take a chimera, and if an infantry platoon is mounted in chimera's, how can it deep stike?
It will be a case of take one or the other. Personally, I would take drop troops, becasue it is cosiderably cheaper, money and points wise.
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As was stated before me, the Mechanized doctrine seems to prohibit the Drop Troops by the way it is worded, so I would maybe check on that before you try it.
Other than that, combining the two (if it is legal) seems like a bad idea. You won't have as many tanks as a mechanized army, and you won't have as much surprise as a Drop Troop army. I mean generally, when you're mechanized you use the transports' heavy weapons as your heavies, and your guardsmen can move about under that cover. Using Drop Troops takes some of that option away.
But then again, I've never tried the two in conjunction, so who knows? Maybe it'll be the revolutionary tactic that makes the IG unbeatable in tournaments around the world! But I'm probably just dreaming.
I think you need to spend more time on your floor.
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On the other hand, it would make for some obvious Deep Striking Storm Trooper models...
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Well, eventhough you can't combine the two (Droptroops and Mechanised) as they are both Alternate Regimental Organisaations (as per p56 Codex Imperial Guard) you might well use Droptroops and then field some Armoured Fist squads or Grenadiers/Vets using Chimera Transports. Boost your line with some tanks and you've got a very fun army to play I reckon.
It's effectiveness all depends on general tactics and luck (reserverolls and scatter).
It can with limited success - but not the mechanised doctrine. I played in the Great Devourer on the 24th of Feb with an All armour or deep striking army (bar 5 grenadiers who i normally hid):
I tried to reverse the tactic of taking no armour so anti tank weapons are useless - and deploying no infantry.
2x 3HB Leman Russes,
All with SL, all with Ex Au bar the Lr's
Sentinal with Las
Sentinal with Multi (Command)
Junior O with 2xflamers
2x Special Wpn Squads with Demo charge
2x 5man Stormtroops w. 2x plasmas,
5 man hardened vet with 2x meltas
Lt Shaffer with trooper
Kage with demo charge trooper
trooper with demo charge trooper
and a 5 man grenadier strolling about
I won one (slaughter) and lost 2 (slaughter and minor loss)
The most effective units were the dropping meltas (shaeffers) and the hellhounds
In retrospect i should have slipped in a improved comms
It is actually quite fun to play and not too bad to play against but i cannot stress enough how important it is to playtest - especially drop troop placement (don't forget the range of demo charges - if it scatters out it's a dud.) basically you have to be fearless with the placement.
My slaughter loss was obvious on turn one - my opponent put down 6x 5man lascannon marine squads, a predator and the rest of his army, and just nailed every tank by turn 2. On turn 3 I placed 9 units that had appeared from dropping, and 8 scattered off the table / onto his men. I take some pride in having a man on the table at the end of turn 6, and he only got 3 scoring units into my deployment area. (laments)
It was fun to play, but not really competitive. I loved doing shaeffers men up, but i could have done that with any army (Currently doing a ranger - esque force with all infiltrating infantry and artillery support - also my normal opponents won't know if i'm armour heavy or light when facing me, so we'll see a drop in anti tank tank weaponry that's started to increase.)
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It's legal to take both Drop Troops and Mechanized. but since mechanized makes all guard infantry units take chimeras and only ones without chimeras and sentinels make use drop troops, it pretty much just leaves you capable of deep-striking only any sentinels you take.
otherwise, /shrug, maybe take some grenadiers in chimeras combined with stormtrooper squads upgraded to d/s.
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Indeed cartemplar is right and I'm wrong. It is legal, unless the text saying "this doctrine could be taken more than once" in Restricted Troops and Special Equipment actually matters. But then again that would mean one were only allowed one of the Skills & Drills...Originally Posted by cartemplar
Sorry for the mess.
EDIT: You could use Mechanised and deepstrike only Stormtroopers as they are not Guard Infantry hence don't need Chimeras.