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OK, I've been filling up my Space Marine ranks and am looking to expand. I currently have:
30 Tac marines of various weapons
8 Dev weapons
10 Assault Marines
1 Land Raider Crusader
I'm looking to add some fire/harassment support to my seemingly solid Marine base. I was thinking either:
All obviously have good and bad points, and that's why I come here, to see what the more experienced (I have 5 games played) players think would be the best addition to my army. If you could give your rationale behind your choices that would be great!
I personally would consider some bikes for you. As I notice that you have assault marines which will give you another unit that can keep up with them and then help out with the assault.
THe biggest problems with assault marines is that they can get too far ahead of your army and get wiped out to a counter assault by the enemy but with the bikes they can help out...
Land speeders are also quite nice as they give you some mobile fire support and a unit that can make a last minute grab for objectives (assuming they survive)
Dreadnoughts can also be nice as they lend some fire support and can also do some good things in close combat. When I personally use Dreadnoughts I take 2 into battle.
I think what it comes down to is the prefered style of play you want to use.
If you want a slow forward moving firepower army go with the dreadnought. If you want some fast moving fire support go with the land speeder. And if you want something to support your assault marines get some bikes.
I find that Fast attack units for marines are quite nice as Marines tend to be a bit slow and can be out moved by a lot of armies.
Hope that helps.
His army looks very mobile so I don't think he'll have a problem with his assault marines getting ahead of anyone. I actualy prefer to hold my assault marines back a bit hidden behind my land raider crusader as it advances up the field to counter assault or safely find their target without getting shot at.
That being said, any of those options are viable. Personaly I would suggest the dreadnought. Not just for game purposes but its one of the SM more unique models so its fun to build.
My experience with Dreads is that they look really scary and attract a ton of fire early. Unless you're very conservative with them, they get shot up really quickly. This isn't a bad thing since it draws fire away from other things (like your Rhinos), but I've found that they look like a lot more fun on paper than they end up being on the table.
Bikes and Land Speeders I typically use for fast firepower. The speeders are typically used for anti-troop and are equipped with a heavy bolter and assault cannon (although the assault cannon can take down light armour as well). The bikes will usually carry melta guns or power fists and take on tanks.
If it was me, I would grab the speeders; I have a soft spot for fast moving assault cannons.
Hmm... I drop pod my dred so I don't realy have a problem with it drawing fire, plus the land raider kind of does that. So if they choose to shoot the dred instead, maybe a good thing. He could also hide it behind the land raider or rhino if he needs to.
Another great thing about drednougts is that the arms they come with are really easy to swap out. So if you feel like going all shooty with twin linked las cannon and missile launcher one day, you can do it, and if you feel like going fist and assault cannon do that, and no need to get magnets or do any fancy converting.
You can make dreadnougts venerable to increase survivability. I've seen them survive a rediculous amount of fire because of that. I would definitly suggest you give it a heavy flamer as well. Sense I use mine in a drop pod there have been a couple occasions where I torched an entire squad of firewarriors or imperial gaurd that were neatly and perfectly lined up for my heavy flamer. ^_^
oh, and to be honest, I have all those models in my army and they all can serve very similar rolls. But if you like speed that's the one thing the dreadnought does not have, other then the drop pod, but that only works once.
Last edited by Guthbrand; April 15th, 2008 at 06:49.
As stated previously, you already have quite a mobile army. As I see it, you could either keep with that theme (Land Speeders, Bikes) or bring in some mobile heavy-hitters in the form of a pair of dreadnoughts.
Equip them with ML+TLLC and have a nice, strong anti-vehicle spearhead or Assault Cannon + CCW + Heavy Flamer + Drop Pod for an expensive, albeit incredibly scary deep-striking sucker-punch.
what am I, the pope?
I'll go ahead and suggest the Venerable Dreadnought. They're nice models, and for gaming purposes I've won more than a few times because of the firepower that they drew and withstood (leaving the rest of my army alive). It really will let the rest of your mobile army have the time to get into position in some games.