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    I have made my own chapter and I want to know if my rules are to unfair.


    Special rules/ (for Tac ad vets
    If no heavy weapons is chosen, then another special weapon maybe be chosen (ie. Flamer, Meltagun, plasma gun)

    Viper Kill Team
    Space Marine 25pts ws:4 bs:4 s:4 t:4 w:1 i:4 a:1 ld:8 sv:3+
    Veteran Sergeant 15+ ws:4 bs:4 s:4 t:4 w:1 i:4 a:2 ld:9 sv:3+

    Squad: the squad is made up of 1 sergeant and 4-9 space marines.

    Weapons: Bolters. Sergeant may have a bolt pistol and close combat weapon.
    The whole squad has jump packs.

    Options: up to 1 marines may be given a Flamer at 6pts; Meltagun at 10pts; Plasma gun 7pts. The entire squad may be given krak grenades at 2pts per model or frag at 1pts per model

    Characters: The Sergeant maybe upgraded to a veteran sergeant at 15pts. The Veteran Sergeant maybe given extra items from the Space Marine Armoury

    The Squad has the Deep Strike ability.


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    In short: yes. The scenario as I see it:

    You play SM. You see codex CSM. You want what's in it. Presto.
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    uh thats an normal squad that can deep strike not to much of a chapter mate come upo with something a litle more creative and whats the chapters name?


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    He basically took 2 Chaos thingies: the ability to take 2 special weapons in a troops squad, and the ability to take assault weapons in jump pack squads.
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    actually it sounds exactly like a BA veteran assault squad. 2 assault weapons, jump packs, the lot. except the BA one can have bolt/plasma pistol and close combat weapon and his cant, and he cant give everyone termie honours
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    Hello, the viper squad has bolters you know and they can only have one special weapon. I think some people should read the entire post before they comment. It&#39;s not an assault squad with special weapons, its more of a tactical squad with jump packs, and jumppackers can deep strike ASFAIK.

    I personally don&#39;t think it&#39;s unbalanced, I just can&#39;t see the point of jump packs without close combat weapons except maybe as some kind of take & hold squad. Jump in early and start firing.
    Two special weapons for a tactical squad is a lot easier to see a use for. Stuff them into a rhino or razorback and zoom around shooting.

    I&#39;m not a big fan of house rules that are so extensive that you can&#39;t use an entire squad in a tournament of against a new opponent. The tactical squad isn&#39;t hard to make legal again, just replace one model, but assault squads are expensive in £££.
    If you want mobile fire-support you could instead get a regular 6-man tactical squad with an assault weapon and mount them in a razorback
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    I wouldn’t say they are overpowered. Just make the second assault weapon in the tac squads cost more than the first.
    I think you might want to look at the chaos codex and form a chapter based off of their rules. Just use your own chapter colors and loyalist marines to represent them. That will give you allot of flexibility in making armies, chaos have an evil amount of flexibility.
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    Originally posted by Tubal@May 17 2004, 14:21
    Hello, the viper squad has bolters you know and they can only have one special weapon. I think some people should read the entire post before they comment. It&#39;s not an assault squad with special weapons, its more of a tactical squad with jump packs, and jumppackers can deep strike ASFAIK.
    Are you referring to me? Cos I did read the entire post, and no it&#39;s not absurdly powerful, the mere fact that it&#39;s something SM don&#39;t normally have as an option is enough for me.
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    No, I meant Killer_Turtle and The Arklite mostly, you just sounded a bit hostile
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    I think it would be an awesome conversion. But if not done right it would look rather stupid.
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