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so i was playing this Grey Knight player with my grots, which make use of
kustom force field (giving 5+ cover saves), however he said that psycannon
ignore cover saves due to the silly wording
"no invulrable saves are allowed, only armour saves"
i took this to mean "no invulrable saves"
he took it as "only armour saves" so no cover either
while incinerators say "no invulrable or cover saves"
so yeah. what do you think? cover saves VS psycannons allowed?
(had a look in forum, couldn't see a previous post)
ty in advance
Cover saves are not Invulnerable saves, so you get them against an Psycannon.
you get cover saves, it mentions the rules for psycannons twice in the codex, in one of them in explicitly states that you get cover saves.
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Yep, I'm afraid the GK player was cheating. Even if you're willing to abuse the language of the psycannon as shown in the armoury (though you should compare that language with that for the incinerator), the weapons summary sheet clearly shows that psycannons only ignore invulnerable saves (again, in clear distinction from the incinerator).
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Yeah, it's an unfortunate bit of wording in the Psycannon entry. Check the Daemonhunters' summary, though, and compare the Psycannon entry with the Incinerator entry. The Incinerator specifically says "No Invulnerable or cover saves" whereas the Psycannon just says "Ignores Invulnerable saves". It's pretty clear how they operate from that.
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Last edited by Hasten; July 2nd, 2008 at 17:24.
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Well the psycannon entry says "Only armor saves are allowed," but he was obviously twisting GWs lack of proper editing to his advantage.
People who do that annoy me. Many things say simply ''no saves allowed'' but this is only referring to armour saves. Yet another prime example of why RAW is not a good thing.
ty ya'll & thanks for the proving reference
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Actually, you're Daemonhunter friend can't even claim he was playing RAW. The last two versions of the DH FAQ explicitly states that Psycannons do not ignore cover saves.