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What is the intended purpose of storm troopers:
in the fluff?
on the table top?
what are stormtrooper best for on the table top?
For all the fluff I read stormies have a single objective. It usually requires them going in quiet.
On the table top I use them for one single goal only. And hope to Gork or Mork that they achieve it.
The goals usually are.
Take out a tank-------------------good, usually with deep strike
plasma rain on heavy infantry---great or really bad, especially with deep strike
distract a hard hitting unit--------good
hold an objective-----------------mixed results
support friendly units-------------mixed results
shock troops----------------------poor results
flexible, catch all unit-------------poor results, they are really not that versatile
How will 5th ed rules change these...?
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I use inquisitorial storm troopers, in 5th edition their chimeras will suck because they move and get hit on the side armour which is nothing special, she won't be able to fire her heavy bolters as defensive weapons anymore on the move
As for their intended use, they are either a distraction in front of a expensive squad or fire support base (chimera + plasma) I do tank hunt occasionally but I find my meltaguns aren’t all that effective without the imperial guards version with meltabombs.
As for imperial guard army its summed up to be pretty bad, if you want them as objective holders you won’t really want the chimera and neither will you be able to deep strike or infiltrate as grenadiers. So you’re looking at limited options; taking out a tank and distracting a hard hitting unit. You could rain plasma but am sure your demolishers will do that a whole lot better btw plasma cannons on that baby are going to be wicked in 5th edition!
I regularly include a deepstriking squad or two (or three sometimes), and against armoured armies they do wonderfully. With a decent deepstrike behind the rear armour, 2x meltaguns with BS4 is awesome. I've used them with plasma guns against stuff like Tyranids (monstrous creature hunters) with moderate success too.
Never tried not deepstriking them, or even infiltrating them... their ability to take 2 special weapons just seems perfect for deepstriking.
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I more often use Veterans as my deepstriking troops (3 meltaguns is better than 2) but what I find myself using my Stormtroopers for is to lead my Infantry squads forwards, especially against the parts of my enemy's armies that are especially efficient at slaughtering Guardsmen (barbed stranglers and bolters, to use two examples.) I am going to start using them in a Chimera too, in order to rapid fire plasma. They attract enemy fire very well - and since they've got that carapace armour, they're better able to take it.
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Fluffwise, stormtroopers are used for those special missions you really can't trust cannon fodder to do--deep recon, VIP escort, surgical strike, that sort of thing.
Gamewise, I used to use stormies exclusively for claiming objectives. A full squad is worth just enough points to swing a VP count my way, and it has worked repeatedly. Grenade launchers are enough of a threat that my enemy responds to the squad even if they don't actually show themselves. They were great and fluffy that way, but now that they aren't scoring I need a new tabletop role for them. Maybe tankhunting with their krak grenades? But so many vehicles have heavy bolters....
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With the new 5th edition rules troops can only hold objectives (which kinda makes sense, what are the chances that 10 men alone could hold defend a hill for an extened period of time? they can get on top of that hill and contest it for a lil while)
This to me just makes grenadiers more valuable. and since my lists usually had 3 squads of veterans and 2 grenadier in chimera squads. I wonder if the new codex will have a special character that allows storm troopers as troops?
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So if the ruling of the grenaiders state that they count as a troop choice and it takes up a troop selection spot then are they not troops? I am assuming that since they count as troop choices using that doctrine then they may hold objectives. Without the doctrine then they will only contest the objectives. T
Where the heck did all them guardsmen come from?
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