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Way back in 4th edition, before it mattered, I mounted my Seraphim on brass pins to make it look like they were flying. I thought it made them look really cool but now that we're using real line of sight, my models' dramatic height leaves them incapable of using terrain for cover and hinders their performance. Even today, my girls got whacked by Tau because they were 'hovering' over the crest of a hill!
Realistically, their jump packs wouldn't allow them to hover and it's a real pain that their dramatic poses are causing them so much grief. Is there any remedy for this or will the girls just have to suck it up?
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For the people that refuse to budge:
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BTW: My Seras are also "flying" and every time I see the Assault Marines on the table I silently kick myself under the table... But I am not going to re-base them. As a matter of fact I am trying to go without Seras and load up on more Troops for several games and see how it goes. So far I had some luck with flying Canoness that sits back, two squads of Sisters (14 each) with HFlamer, Book and Eviscerator, two Exorcists and 8-girls (4 HBolters) Retributors squad. Heavy Support happy list, but so far I won two games and lost one (against 80 Ork models) with that list. This is for 1K games...
Last edited by SmokWawelski; August 1st, 2008 at 13:29.
I've been thinking about just cutting off the pins under the Seraphim feet and putting their feet solidly on the ground. Of course, then I remember how cool they look hovering in the air...
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...Wouldnt raising or lowering the hieght of the seras beyond their original positioning technically make them illegal models under the new TLOS rules, im just reminded of the example of the daemon prince ontop of a throne of skulls or something, and GW said that it couldnt be used in games because its height had been altered which gave it advantages/disadvantages which it shouldnt otherwise have.
from the sounds of it he did something very similar to what i did. I removed the basing that attached to their feet and drilled a hole in the underside of the gown to attach a clear post and base. this raised their height but as said before you can add to but not take away from.
Now thanks to 5ed alot of us are thinking about dropping the seras back down to ground level therefore we would not be using "illegal" models but just returning them to their original position before we modified them to look cool.
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At my local GW store I was told that the easiest way to get rid of this problem is to have one model of the original size, with which you can compare. This way you may still use your own bases and when checking LOS you'll use the height of the original model thus avoiding the kneeling Wraith lord effect. This ofcourse is something to be discussed with your opponent before battle.
Yes, seems to be a good idea, but with a rules-lawyer it will open a whole new can of worms: "you did not place this model EXACTLY where it was before you picked it up to check the height and LOS"...
I recognize the situation and my way to solve that problem is to take my models and leave. A player with his head that deep in the rulebook is not a player I'd game with. Eventually you wouldn't move the models only placing them side by side, this may cause a bit inaccuracy, but not enough to affect the game.