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(If you don't want a introduction and a little rambling skip down to the BOLDED questions below)
My friend gave me some various Warhammer figures a while ago and just recently I have taken a lot of interest in painting them and getting into Warhammer 40k.
The figures he gave me were Space Marine, hence the reason I am posting in this subforum.
Warhammer 40k seems pretty overwhelming to a novice like me. I picked up the recent rulebook and my friend gave me a space marine codex when he gave me the marines as well.
Now he has moved and I probably won't be able to talk to him for long stretches for a while, so I come to the forums for some questions.
Out of the marines I have found 4 normal looking terms and 3 commander looking terms (with the little flag holder). I figured my first project would simply be to paint a squad of terminators. I have access to lots of little weapons and stuff since I have various models.
OKAY, here are the questions:
I have 4 normal terms and a commander term to make up a squad.
1. What the heck do I put on these terms weapon wise? I know my options but since I have little experience with actual gameplay yet I have no idea what to put on them. What would I be happy with as a beginner? Suggestions?
2. What chapter do you guys recommend taking? I know this is just opinion but I am just curious about your answers. I plan on doing research of my own of course also. Edit: I am reading the Chapter thread. You can still answer if you have a suggestion but I AM reading the thread. Thanks. Edit #2: After reading a bit more.. the only thing that worries me is that some squads seem too specialized even though i think the fluff and colors are cool. This wouldn't be a big deal if I were rich and could spend $1k-2k on figs but this isn't the case. I know the potential to spend a nice chunk of money is here in the long run, but for the here and now I want to attempt to be balanced. Then again, I could always make it a certain chapter and play it vanilla or as whatever.. right?
3. Any other tips for a novice starting out this way? If I can manage to paint these terms and play a game locally (shouldn't be a problem) I plan on rewarding myself with the new starter. But this is my first goal.
Last edited by Nihilisti; August 21st, 2008 at 05:50.
The Assault Cannon is usually the weapon of choice for Terminators. It's not as good in this edition as the previous, but still packs a punch. If you plan to mount them in a Land Raider, a Heavy Flamer is worthwhile, if they walk or teleport, they probably won't get to use it.
If none of the Chapters appeal to you because of their colours or background story, pick based on the type of army you want to try. Marines are fairly easy to repaint and repurpose in the future anyway =) You should probably take a look at the Rumors threads for Space Marines as well. The new Codex is less than 2 months away, and a lot will change from the one you have now.
The only note on the new started is, it comes with 4 Storm Bolter terminators, so remember to build yourself an 'extra' heavy weapon out of the ones you have now if you want to use them with one! =)
Yea, in a way it sucks I am just starting off when a new codex is two months away. I will need several attempts at painting anyway I guess. I still have to learn how to strip plastic minis and see how viable it is. I know these metal ones are EASY with oven cleaner - they strip perfect.
Maybe I'll just paint em as dark angels and learn the game and units + 5th edition rules then strip em all when the new codex hits.
We can always use old miniatures even though new rules and codex come out right?
if you choose dark angels you would need a seperate codex just for them and i dont know if you would want to invest it that, i would start with your own chapter first and see how you like playing, shooting or assault, just keep it up and you will be happy with the result. for terminators go with one assault cannon, 3 storm bolters, and the sargeant with power sword and storm bolter the rest have power fists. space marines are really fun and so flexible in the way u can play them plus they are good.. once u find ur style of play choose a chapter that is the same of style. enjoy your models.
Traitors dine in heLL.
Deathwing SGT: Storm Bolter x Power Sword
Terminator 1: Assault Cannon x Power Fist
Terminator 2: Storm Bolter x Power Fist
Terminator 3: Storm Bolter x Power Fist
Terminator 4: Storm Bolter x Power Fist
My problem is the following:
I have mostly everything I need. I am missing one normal Storm Bolter (I have one with the little feather hanging off but its too extravagant looking for a normal term probably). Also I don't have power fists just the chainfists. Should I order some kind of weapon pack? Anyone have any suggestions on where to order from? (if I can't find any local)
Adeptus Mechanicus Marines: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ml#post1655065
The other folk have posted some great ideas, so i won't confuse you with more options on those termies.
What i will say, is do take time looking into which chapter you want. When you find a chapter and you dont like the colours, thats fine! Paint them how YOU want in the colours YOU want, and call them a "successor" chapter of the XXXXXX marines. That way you get the best of both worlds. (Although i dont advise taking a templars or space wolves successor and painting them like ultramarines!)
As for ordering parts, you can get individual model pieces from several online websites. Two that i have used several times with no hassel at all are these:
Bits and Kits UK
A quick google might bring up other options, but these guys to deliver internationally =)
Also, removing citidel paint from plastic mini's is a task in its self, but its very very do-able.
I dont know where abouts your from, but in the UK we have something called 'Dettol', its a pine-oil disinfectant. I think a USA varient is 'Pinesol' but i'm not sure. I dont know about EU varients, however as a description, ours comes in a caramel like colour, used as a cleaning agent and goes cloudy when clean water gets in it. Pour this neat into a glass or hard plastic container deep enough to fully submerge a mini, and leave the mini in there for a maximum of 2 days. Typidally about 12 hours is more than enough. Longer than 2 days will start to eat away at the plastic underneith. After about 12 hours, the paint will have melted, and should come away in chunks under hot running water. Use a tooth brush to get stubborn paint off. This method eats through tooth brushes (between 3 and 5 per mini!) so buy a LOAD of cheap brushes if your doing several mini's. If some paint remains, put back in the Dettol / Pinesol for a couple more hours and try again.
Things to note :
1. Wear gloves when possible, neat dettol / pinesol eats through flesh like it does plastic over time. If you do have to put your hands in, get them under the hot water when possible!
2. Dettol / Pinesol also eats through pollycement/glue, so expect limbs to come away at the glue-joints. Just glue those back in place later =)
3. This stuff can be re-used multiple times. I wouldnt advise cleaning the floors with it, but keep it in an air-tight container for future mini cleaning!
4. This method works on metal mini's too! Infact it works better, as the paint comes away easier!
I've just finished cleaning my 48th plastic mini (i bought a load from a friend that were in a poor state!). I've got sore thumbs from the dettol and a bin full of toothbrushes i would not like to use with toothpaste, but a lot of very clean minis with their arms removed, ready for converting and painting into my army!
Any issues with cleaning plastic minis check out the modeling/painting forums or drop me a PM. Im online practically every day!
Good luck mate!
Last edited by CleanRabbit; August 21st, 2008 at 09:17. Reason: Added more ramblings
Also, this power fist thing is kind of a crap dilemma. I checked e-bay and they all seem to be plastic. I believe I found one metal one and it was like $7. I might just check at searching but this is becomming discouraging. Maybe I should sell these pewter ones and find plastic ones or something? =/
Also, is the general consensus that most people like pewter better? I didn't know much about 40k but when I found out it was all plastic now I was a bit let down.
Initially i hated the pewter models. Not because they didnt look good, heck they are beautiful, but because i hated painting them. My painting skills were pretty poor initially and i couldnt get a smooth finish on the pewter parts. Naturally it was my skill, not the model, that was letting me down, and now (only a few months later!) i readily prefer painting, modeling and handling the pewter mini's. Its obviously more difficult to do large conversions on pewter models compared to plastic, but the quality of detail means i hardly have to do anything to the pewter minis, where as i spend a good two or three hours converting plastic models to get the pose i want.
Just as a quick PS on stripping plastic minis, start with stripping just one. Learn how to do it and how it works for you. If you dont like the dettol/pinesol method, search online for other ideas. Break fluid has mixed results but seems to be a popular option too, but do some research on that first