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there is this guy who plays dark eldar and always beats the hell out of my space wolves, now i have to play against him with my new witch hunters army, but i dont know how to beat him, he always use that darn wyches and the archon with his retinue, what do i need in my 1500 pts WH army to defeat him ??? please help me !!!!
I play DE as my main army. The thing to remember is that DE CANNOT stand up to shooting. Wyches will own you in HTH, but they only have a 6+ save vs. shooting, and T3. That makes them easy pickings for any ranged fire.
Now the bad news: WH excell at *short* ranged shooting. To get your flamers to bear, you will be in range for a counder-assault by any survivors. Added to that, DE are FAST. A wych squad in a raider can move 12", disembark, fleet of foot up to 6" and assault another 6". That means that your flamers put you in reach of his entire army.
On the other hand, the standard warrior isn't that tough in HTH. You didn't say if your opponent plays wych cult or cabal. If its a cabal, then you're good.
The bottom line? Stan-off shooting is your best bet, coupled with timely uses of acts of faith to survive the inevitable close combat when you have to.
There's also a temptation on the part of the DE player to rush forward with their fastest units, leaving the bulk of the army behind. Even a wych squad will fall if its all alone: If your opponent rushes forward with only one or two units, try to destroy him one unit at a time, starting with the fastest ones. Military strategists call this "destroying the enemy in detail." It works in RL, and it works in Warhammer.
Blue Meenie has it down. For that Archon, just shoot his Raider. Then he has to walk the distance to your army. Also, witch hunters is an entire army list that can shoot his raiders down. Its only bolters, who can only glance the raiders, but the raiders would have been moving so fast that you would only glance them anyways.
Personaly i would stock up on flamers/meltagun and heavy flamers.... Retributor with heavy bolters are a must and 1 Exorcist to make sure the vehicles go down or even if he has a Talos.....
Also take a squad of seraphims and use them as a counter attack squad to pile into the fighting of any squads left on their own.....
Thank u very much guys, that will help me a lot, any more tactics ???
If you post an overall idea about your opponent's army then maybe we can give you some tactics against those troops.......maybe...
Ok, heres whats he uses, well at least what i remember:
3 warrior squads ( i think 10 and 2 with darklances in each) i think one of them is mounted on a raider.
a squad of 5 scourges
Drashar, one Archon, and 8 incubi all mounted on a raider
10 wyches(1 with agoniser) ,mounted in a raider
i think thats his 1500 pts list....
Ok well his army his hq and bodyguard is totally tooled up for CC so the first think you should do is destroy any and all transports he may have because he will rush and assault you with them. second well if you did the first just shoot the sh** outta his army because they cant handle a whole lotta firepower. also maybe use an exorcist to shoot his incubi or get a penitent engine or some arcoflaggalants to take'em out in CC.
More specifically you should use an Exorcist or Heavy Bolter Retributor Squad to get the raiders down after witch you should target the closest squads with all your firing might giving special attention (Exorcist) to the HQ and Talos.
Because you bolters should out-gun them you can always try to take the perfect time to actually use your seraphims to flame and assault the warrio squads, just keep them away from the Incubi and Taslos if you can, these should definatly be taken by shooting.
like what hugus said, hit ALL his raiders FIRST. you might want to use allies from space marines or imperial guard or daemonhunters. i think imperial guard would be the best choice. use them to bog all his close combat forces if they get close, so u can move your firing squads back to a new position or for a counter assault.