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Ive done some searching and found several posts on mortars and basilisks and there uses within an IG army. Unfortunatly a great deal of these are before 5th Ed and the new SM codex with the Mass forces of Drop Pods.
With my guard army i feel indirect fire is going to be a huge advantage the way i plan on playing. Mainly for pinning purposes, the enemy cant do much why hes constantly pinned. With the cheapness of these units I can field so many of them for very little points.
The general idea is to have barrage weapons blasting the hell out of postions 4-5 sets of morter squads supported by 2 basilisks set up in seperate corners. with my basilisks being my MEQ destoyers. then having mobile infanty, such as shotgun/flamer/melta equipped vets. Plasma Armed stormies, armoured fist and armour moving up to finish them off and catch them whilst there pinned, a smaller gunline containing missile launchers made of regular infanatry platoon would take there place center stage.
Defence of my basilisks would be undertaken by 6-8man big rough rider squads to lance anything deepstriking maybe backed up by a command squad each armed with flamers / melta's as cheaply as possible. All of which can move into combat once threat of this has disappear'd.
This is aimed at roughly 2000 points worth of army. My main target is to have a "fun" army to play with lots of mobile troops to play with supported by heavy hitting guns from the rear. Obviously i would like it to be a little competitive but aslong as im having fun and standing half a chance with it im more than content.
What do you guys recon to the idea, worth planning some points out for them or back to the design room.
Basilisks are a little worse in that they are now much harder to hide behind terrain. Mortars are okay but not worth the loss of the powerful heavy weapon you would otherwise have... how will you handle even medium tanks? Pinning is nice if it happens but it is not something to build an army around--far too many armies are either fearless or Ld 10.
Aside from that, it sounds like a typical mechanized/grenadier army, which of course is fun and fluffy for all.
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard
Question about bassie.
I spent all my learning 4th ed just for 5th to come out (grumble...) it says if a vehicle moves 6", it can fire "one weapon."
So... a bassie can move and fire its cannon?
If so: awesome!
Sorry Dr. Doomy, but the Bassie's Earthshaker Cannon is an ordinance weapon, so it has to stay stationary to fire. The hull heavy bolter can be fired after moving 6" though.
I want to do a mortar army just so I can do the three pie plates, another three pie plates, yet another three pie plates, etc...
Father Mulcahy: Just as the Lord said to Noah, "Everything in pairs."
Pierce Hawkeye: Of course the Lord was holding three aces at the time.
Ordnance Barrage weapons can't move and fire.
But anyway since 5th I can't get myself to use a basilisk even though I love artillary. With the new area terrain and indirect fire scattering up to 12" I'd rather have the AV14 and mobile battle cannon of a Russ.
One decent bonus of the basilisk is it should deny most cover saves as Ord. Barrage looks at cover from the center hole of the blast, but the chimera chassis doesn't really balance that out for me.
I would use the crap out of them on a city board though.
Hrm. I never noticed that blurp about Ordinance Barrage weapons, Jakeman. Good catch! On the bright side, at least you can still direct-fire it while moving.
Of course, if you're moving a Basilisk, you're either in trouble or doing something wrong.
I really wanna do more mortars as well; they've almost always done some amazing stuff, and my little mortar squad has taken so many lives and pinned so many things its not even funny anymore!
Last edited by mareo; September 23rd, 2008 at 06:14.
"The only valid test is combat; the only valid result is victory"
Ardak Kumerian, Klingon Admiral.
Wow, glad I asked. I especially didn't catch that part about blast holes ignoring cover if the shot is IN the cover with them. Excellent...
Where the heck did all them guardsmen come from?
Great Wolf! Is that the howl of the 13th?