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I am sitting here staring at a Guardsmen sqaud and for some reason, I dont like the looks of the special weapons. I think they look much better with just a Lasgun.
My question is, would it be a good idea to leave out the special weapons or are they necessary to walk away from a battle the victor?
well, that all depends upon what the mission is, what the battle field is like and who you are against, and finally what the rest of your army is
lasguns are going to be as effective as flashlights against vehicles, so something that packs a punch would be very nice, then again why waste points on a unit that is expected to die in the first round?
all you choice mate, i personally think that some specialist weapons are need in an army but where they are is up to the "Comander" of said army
sorry it wasnt much help
Its fine, I realise I was kind of vague in my questioning. Im just in the drawing phase right now. The rest of the army will consist of at least one Leman Russ, at least one basilisk, a hell of a lot more ground pounders, a few heavy weapons squads possibly tuned towards AT, a kasrkin squad, a sniper squad, and the HQ(of course).
I will be facing at least two chapters of space marines, at least one other regiment of Guard, and then at least two other un-identified armies, most likely all at once. All friendly. well... sort of, not sure how friendly 40K can get.
As for battlefield, I dont know, it will most likely be city fight.
So, knowing this, would just lasguns be enough for AI or would I still need special weapons?
I know its really all up to me, Im just looking for advice here.
Last edited by Malacoda; September 25th, 2008 at 02:03.
To me, special weapons i use give the squad a purpose on the field. If I want my armoured fist to take out vehicules, take a melta. Heavy infantry? Plasma. Ranged support: Grenade launcher. Massed light infantry: Flamer (obviously).
Of course, when I'm building an army list, special weapons are a secondary thought. I usually put my points on making sure I can field my russes, hellhounds and lascannons before thinking about SP weapons. Wargear come after purchasing SPW'S.
Imperial Guard: 3000 pts
Chaos Daemons: 1000 pts
Hmm... I am testing an army list with no special weapons. But I have a creazy number of vehicles and heavy weapons for compensate. Is especially designed for long range fight.
Im my opinion Cityfighting is where infantry can play more. Less LOS, shorter ranges, the battlespace become more 3D and have more cover saves. Special weapons work better here.
But if you have enough anti-tank power, Ie: ordenance weapons, lascannons, Krack missiles/grenades, power fists, eviscerators, melta bombs, etc... Then, there is problem.
"The only valid test is combat; the only valid result is victory"
Ardak Kumerian, Klingon Admiral.
I dont really like the looks of the sentinel either, I think it looks too clumsy. I know I will need at least one lascannon, autocannon, or heavy bolter to deal with the roid ragers (marines). My Guard enemy, I know, makes use of the plasma gun, so I hvae just a good a chance of him destroying himself than me. Im definatly going to have a Leman Russ and a Basilisk, theres my AT. The Guardsmen should make a decent AI.
Once I get my list worked out, Ill post it and let you guys argue with me about adding SW.
Personally, I would never put a squad on the table without a special weapon, maybe a remnant squad if it's just to make points but all of the special weapons are to cheap and effective not to bring as many as you possible can. Massed flashlight fire is extremely effective too and often overlooked by opponents but the special weapons are just to good of a deal.
That's just my opinion. I have never tried all lasgun infantry so do what you got to do. If it works out let us know.
You can do an army without special weapons but I would go against it. Heavy weapons in a platoon is fine to remove but special weapons can come in handy. But its really up to you.
Were just like a democracy. We will bicker and whine. We hardly get things really done. Its up to you to see things through.