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    They suck! their armor sucks, cc sucks, lasguns suck. I lost 2 companies trying to take a SM held bridge. Not including 2 Leman russ tanks. Am i doing stuff wrong, or do they just suck?





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    Well, four of them do suck! Hell, ten of them suck! Ninety of them though, is pretty darn hard to kill
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    Well if you got into cc then yes you did something wrong.
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    what exactly do you mean by "two companies" cause a real company can be pretty damn big... give us some numbers.

    as for the state of suckieness for guardmen... well... hmm how should i put this... compared to a SpaceMarine .. yes.. they suck.

    compared to a necron warrior, yes they suck
    compared to a ork or nid (in cc), yes they suck
    compared to a DE warrior, yes they suck
    hell even compared to a tau they suck

    but you can&#39;t compared one guardsmen to one enemy model... hell you even compare X points of guardmen vs X points of enemy...

    it&#39;s a combination of IGs many bodies, many guns, chain of command, and simply put.. gutts...

    i don&#39;t know what else to tell you other than, take lots of men, lots of guns and use them well and you should win. don&#39;t go over board with lil extras (doctrines, gear, etc). keep it simple. and for god sake, don&#39;t run into H2H (unless it&#39;s Tau).

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    Guardsmen are point for point some of the best troops in the game. They have exactly average stats and strength in numbers.

    If you haven&#39;t invested in lots of heavy weapons and ordinance, then yes, space marines will chew you up and spit you out. I personally take about 15 heavy weapons and three tanks in my 1850 point army and I hardly ever have troubles against space marines. Especially with basilisk tanks.

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    Like people said before, one Guardsmen does suck. But thats why they are worth 6 points each. You can have 60 of them for 360 points, thats pretty good.

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    Massed firepower will eventually wear down the toughest of foes, at least in my limited experience playing the IG. And that&#39;s what the IG does, they pour it on.

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    I had this poor idiot player attempt to walk his 100+ model SM army towards me instead of using rhinos (This was when rhino rush was legal). I was playing my IG army and I just tore them to pieces, especially whenever they ended up within rapid fire range.

    I&#39;ve seen lasguns take down things that all my heavy bolters and autocannons failed to wound. See, what happens is it becomes statistically impossible for a marine to make a certain number of armor saves. So, although the lasgun is a sucky weapon, when it&#39;s employed in mass amounts, it starts making statistics take their toll on the enemy. Especially with sharpshooters doctrine, which gives the statistics a better chance to come out favorably.

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    I’ve heard people say that guardsmen suck. The fact is, a single Guardsmen dose, but you put him with a hundred other of his friends and you face an army more feared than the Nightbringer himself. They&#39;ve gone up against mass bolter fire, ork Hordes, greater demons and they still managed to pull through. But not every battle has been a complete victory. No, I&#39;ve lost my sare of battles to a mistake of my own undoing. Which is most likely the ones you are making.
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