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Hey all. Well.... my army is building up nicely. Got roughly 1000 points now and am now looking to flesh out my forces with some elites. I'll need them as one of my friends armies is SM.
I have decided to go with some Hardened Vets, as I have loads of spare pieces and can convert some of my own, rather than buy metal stormies. And I want a good SM killing unit, so gonna deck them out with some serious hardware....
But my question anyway, are shotguns worth it? They sound like they are cool weapons for Vets to use... but are they effective? Or would you rather keep the range of the lasgun?
To be honest, I'd rather not assault my units unless I have too, especially against marines! So the Assault 2 of the shotgun might not be useful in this situation. But just out of interest, in general, how many of you would prefer the shotgun? Possibley against squishier enemies?
I'd say the principle benefit to using shotguns is the ability to move and shoot. If you have a squad of vets that you've tasked for something other than long ranged, higher BS shooting, then shotguns can give you those few extra shots without sacrificing mobility. I could see combining them in a unit with meltas/demo charges or other short ranged weapons for "just in case" kind of situations.
Plus, there is the undeniable cool factor. Some grizzled vets that are used to down and dirty fighting packing shotguns in a universe of lasers and other high tech weapons is a cool image to me.
As far as the poll goes though, I can't say automatically yes or automatically no. If you're using your vets as a small, lascannon toting anti-tank team, I'd just stick with lasguns. But if you're going Mechanized or Drop troops, then yeah I would.
Last edited by SimulatedSnowman; October 10th, 2008 at 16:33.
I think you need to spend more time on your floor.
2500 Black Templars
I run shotguns with my vets, just because of the ability to shoot and move, as stated above. There is little difference other than that, so I guess it depends on your preference. I think they look cool also!...
heh yeah, I mean the main reason I'm considering it is for the coolness factor!
And I suppose the poll is a bit too definite to say or not, as it depends on what you want the unit to do.
As I'm intending my Vets to be more a shooty unit, to take out power armoured units... rather than assaulting things or blowing up vechiles. I'll guess I'll go with the old lasgun for now
In terms of Lasgun or Shotgun, I don't think there is a great deal of difference. Just make sure that your Vets are full of all the other weapons available, like your Melta and Plasma Guns if you are planning on taking out Power Armoured units!
for vets yes, otherwise no especially in line squads
If Slaanesh is the god of the Perverse, why does Nurgle have all the filth?
Feth a load o shotguns! Gimme grenade launchers that have greater range, the same mobility and shoot a shotgun strength template or a krak grenade. Plasmas and meltas are my standard fare.
My Armor Is Contempt.
Sorry, am I not getting something? Lasguns can also move and shoot. The same number of shots, at the same range, at the same Strength. They simply have the added flexibility of being able to fire twice that range if no moving is done.
If you're not going to be assaulting, why not just go with Lasguns?
cause with a lasgun you have effective range to 24" with 1 shot, but with shotgun you have effective range 24" (18" shotgun + 6" move) with 2 shots, both at s3. i'd give line squads nades/hb with shotty sarge and airborne vets with 3 plasma guns, a heavy flamer, bolter sarge, and shotguns for everyone else.
Shotguns are only better if your squad is all armed with assault weapons as a squad of 10 with 7 shotguns and 3 plasma guns for example couldn't assault after firing the plasma guns but if they had assault weapons and no heavy weapon then I would like to take shotguns.
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