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Hi, i would love to start a daemonhunters army(after i finish building my eldar one) but the price is horrible!
so, what do you guys do? do you just pay the money? or is there some good, easy conversions out there?
thanks for the help!
Well if you wanted to you could get normal space marines with blacktemplar conversians or us SM with fanasty swords but they would look really crap. You just gotta pay the dough for the best
"The end comes to those who deserve it. Not those who ask for it."
Grey Knights may be expensive models, but you need fewer of them (high points cost) and IMHO, they're still among the best models GW has ever produced.
I've never seen GK's that haven't been based off of GK models, but you could probably do some conversions from standard Marine stuff if you're really determined.
Damn! oh well. maybe i should get a job. but if anyone does have a good Conversion idea please tell!
Shameless link to my project log over at Warseer where i convert upscaled Grey Knights:
Inquisitor Truksons Forces (Plastic Stormtroopers, truescale Grey Knights and more!) - WarSeer
But cheaper? Not really.
As someone mentioned, using Black Templar/Command squad boxes would yeld parts that are at least vaguely "Grey Knightish", but youre going to need some conversion skills to pull off primarly the Nemesis Force weapons.
Not to be an ass....
But why would you even bother collecting GK if you aren't going to buy the proper models?
I'm guessing you chose eldar because they looked awesome (thats why I chose them initially)
The GK models are some of the most amazing in the game, there is no point at all collecting them if your planning on doing a horrible SM conversion
Sure if you intended on doing a really raelly good job on the conversions that may be worth it, but then you are spending more on conversions than you are on normal models.... not worth it.
If you ask me, take a look on ebay for some GK boxes, there are a few dealers who offer major discounts, I bought 3x boxes of PAGK, and 1 box of GKT + stern for about 60% of the retail price including shipping....
On the other hand buy some second hand if you can, and strip the paint off them, should get them cheap this way.
I have a friend who has a silver themed SM chapter, and the GWS guys always ask if they are stand in GK, which he always laughs at, and I always give the GWS guys hell about, they are just normal SM's painted silver, not even with a NFW or normal weapon....
"A love for tradition has never weakened a nation, indeed it has strengthened nations in their hour of peril."
Sir Winston Churchil
Btw Trukson, those storm troopers look awesome! the greyknights look great too. but i was wondering what truescaling is?
Like i stated, you CAN convert marines to look if not identical then at least alot like the metal Grey Knights, but it wont be any cheaper than buying the metal ones.
Plastic Grey Knight Conversion - The Bolter and Chainsword : A 40k Space Marine Resource
Both the Space Marine Command squad and Black Templar upgrade boxed sets contain alot of "knightified" Power Armour parts, but to make a "normal marine" look like a Grey Knight you would need to have at least a few significant trademarks (first 2 also being required for WYSIWYG):
1. The Stormbolter. Kinda hard to get access to around 40 stormbolters, but if your good at converting and have like 80 Bolters lying around you can make your own (i would perhaps make them from Bolt Pistols seeing how small the storm bolters on the metal GKs are).
2. The Nemesis Force weapon. This is perhaps the toughest part of the entire conversion. Youre gonna need a heck load of power weapons or be a master of plasticard and scratchbuilding!
3. The helmet. Easiest way to make a Marine look like a Grey Knight is to "knightify" his helmet.
4. Chapter Symbol. If youre good at painting you could freehand it, but all the metal models have it in relief so im sculpting minte out of greenstuff.
5. Archaich decorations. Grey Knights have more "old school"-looking Power armours, with scribing in relief, arches, scrolls and purity seals.Thanks, i hope to get to painting this week!Btw Trukson, those storm troopers look awesome! the greyknights look great too. but i was wondering what truescaling is?
"Truescaling" is an Internet-trend amongst Marine players that started with the discussion that in all litterature (novels, stories and even codexes) Space Marines are pictured as being 7-8 foot tall "superhumans" (being genetically engineered and all). But if you compare scale on the models a Space Marine is struggling to be taller than an Imperial Guard (which is used as a reference for a "normal sized human").
Because of this some modellers have started to rebuild their Space Marines to make them "large enough" to represent these Supermen. Links to one of the most famous:
Pre Heresy World Eaters! ZOMG! - WarSeer
Synapse (as the guys is called) has however declared his Marines to be a bit TOO big (his Terminator is about the size of a Dreadnought) in scale, meaning they would be closer to 9 feet tall.
Im placing myself somewhere in between, measuring my models my Marines would be about 7 feet tall if i use the basis that my Stormtrooper is 6 feet. So i have started to call my Marines for "upscaled" instead of "truescaled".
Hope you got some answers to your questions and hope to see some converted Grey Knights soon!