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I see tons of threads about the awesomeness of sternguard and how they are much better than their melee counterparts (vanguard).
But, it seems a little steep to pay more for 5 models than for 10 tactical marines that look pretty dam similar. Is it really essential to pay for all those toys on the sternguards armor when its equally possible to spend less than half the cash on normal space marines and paint their heads a different color than your normal marines (and you get the upgrade sprue to boot).
Ive never actually seen the sternguard models. Is there any essential difference
They look alot nicer than normal marines imo.
Theres some in the new space marine codex if u have it u can see what there like or check the GW website there on there.
Yeah i knew what they looked like, i was just wondering if they were slightly bigger or something that made them too different from normal space marines to use them as replacements.
If there isnt thats great news...saved myself some cash.
Ofc they look nicer, but im a little tight atm so its a sacrifice im not gonna loose any sleep about.
Ive been wondering about the sternguard models myself, more so the shoulder pads, are they preattached to the arms or can i use the chapter specific ones that i want to?
Its the left shoulder (from the marines pov), squad markings arnt hard to paint but my attempts at fists are failing dismally
Warhammer in general tends to allow as many conversions as you want, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with converting your own Sternguard models using components from the Tactical Squad, Assault Squad, Devastator Squad, Veterans, Command Squad, Commander, <insert unit> boxes that are available. Bottom line is that Sternguard are veteran Space Marines, and they still wear power armour. You'll want to make them look a bit more flashy and veteran-y than your average power armoured Joe, but in the long run they are still just Space Marines.
The models that have been supplied for them are excellent sculpts, but are metal and expensive, so it's hardly economical to use them all the time. They're fantastic for a collection though.
I'll echo what LN said. You don't have to use the GW sternguard models if you want to use sternguard - you could use any of the older veteran models, or indeed any model you want so long as its suitably 'veteran' looking.
By this I mean fancy armour - studs, tabbards, cloaks, capes, more insignia/markings on the armour, lots of purity seals, laurel wreaths, fancy paint job, terminator honours... The list goes on and on. There are so many plastic bits you could use for this it mad.
I personally prefer to convert my own veteran-style models, but it really is up to you at the end of the day.
The only problem i see with the sternguards is there's not enough of them. I mean very quickly (if you're running a crimson fists with multiple sternguard) you'll have lots of awesome models, in the same pose.
I went looking for suitably cool looking models through the SM range, but all i could find was the tyrannic war vets (and one of the MK2 vets with a bolter) that makes 10 different posed models, only 1 full squad, does anyone else know of some bolter armed/metal plastic veteranesque models that i missed?
Have you thought of using bits from the Dark Angels veterans sprues and the Black Templar upgrade sprues? Plenty of models with added 'funk' to make plastic sternguard. The Black Templar Sword Brethren could also be made to work with a little conversion.
If you look on a bit website you'll also find plenty of bits and pieces from other plastic kits you can use to convert basic tactical marine parts to use as sternguard.
Edit - you just looking for the metal models? Or are you willing to use plastic as well?
For mine I just used a group of tac marines and painted them differently. mainly red helmets to signify that they were different. other then that there isn't much difference in the models especially in terms of your opponent being able to distinguish between the two types of marines.
I actually had a bunch of true grit converted marines and I'm using them for my sternguard (since I was using them for my deathwatch, just without the deathwatch upgrade sprue) and I repainted them to my legion's colors and I think it works out. Especially since sternguard have 2 attacks anyway so the true grit poses make sense.
So converting tactical marines is an easy way to get a bunch of different poses, although buying the deathwatch upgrade kit will give them all fancier bolters and make them look more like sternguard (the deathwatch guys I made were my first space marines for my guard army when I was 14, so i was strapped for cash)
also you could just use normal bolters and cut off the ammo feeds from storm bolters (i used the ones off the pintle mounts)
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